question about ONR

**Al1515** · 01-26-2011, 01:55 PM

I know that Optimum now has Opti-Clean for those who like to do waterless washing. However, I was wondering, if you just use ONR at the recommended QD dilution ratio - would that also work OK as a waterless wash? Overall, I like to use the method of waterless washing (spray/wipe) more than rinseless washing.

**Rsurfer** · 01-26-2011, 02:04 PM

Originally Posted by Al1515

I know that Optimum now has Opti-Clean for those who like to do waterless washing. However, I was wondering, if you just use ONR at the recommended QD dilution ratio - would that also work OK as a waterless wash? Overall, I like to use the method of waterless washing (spray/wipe) more than rinseless washing.

OOC has more cleaning agents and polymers than ONR and therefore was made for waterless washing. Products are made for specific reasons, so use accordingly.

**Chris Thomas** · 01-26-2011, 02:55 PM

ONR at quick detailer dilution can be used as a spray and wipe product when only dusting or freshening up. Keep in mind that most people use a quick detailer after washing as a booster lasting a couple of weeks. As surfer mentioned OptiClean has been formulated specifically for washing without a substantial amount of water. It's not just more actives, but different ones that provide lubricity and emulsification as well as protection in a bottle instead of a bucket.

**Shawn T.** · 01-26-2011, 03:53 PM

I've always wondered. If 1/2 oz per 1 gallon will work as a rinseless wash then why won't 8 oz per 1 gallon (recommended QD ratio) not work as a waterless wash? I mean, that is 16 times more ONR than rinseless wash ratio.

**mg6045** · 01-26-2011, 04:08 PM

Originally Posted by Shawn T.

I've always wondered. If 1/2 oz per 1 gallon will work as a rinseless wash then why won't 8 oz per 1 gallon (recommended QD ratio) not work as a waterless wash? I mean, that is 16 times more ONR than rinseless wash ratio.

I have often thought this same thing. qood question.

**Chris Thomas** · 01-26-2011, 04:53 PM

Yes it will work OK. Just keep in mind that it's a secondary function of the product so there are better choices.

**mrvelvet** · 03-01-2011, 06:25 PM

So could you use OOC on a vehicle that has a solid layer of dirt? Maybe not caked on mud but close to it. All this without causing swirls?

**James K** · 03-01-2011, 06:41 PM

I would not recommend that. I don't believe that is what it was made for. More like for cleaning a car that is just a little to dusty or dirty for a qd.

I do have a question. I do rinseless washes while I am here on post. When the car needs a pre rinse, I take it to the car wash and hose it off. What I am wondering is if you think that OOC would work as a good presoak for a rinseless wash. Just to help cut down the chances of micro marring and add more lubrication to the mix. It might be overkill I know, but you can never be to safe right?

**Chris Thomas** · 03-01-2011, 07:09 PM

It is a little overkill but it also will add a bit more safety to your process. OC was made to emulsify and encapsulate dirt quickly and with very little water...so it certainly will make a good presoak for a rinseless wash.

**James K** · 03-01-2011, 08:55 PM

Great! Thanks for the info Chris. Where I live on post is a gravel parking lot. The training area I instruct at is a sand/dirt parking lot. I do not mind a little overkill when it comes to protecting my paint.

I will add some to my order.