Leatherique vs. Swissvax

[astonmartin]

If you're not conditioning will keep the leather from drying out

[Ricorocks]

Hi Astonmartin,

If you do not, treat the leather & allow it to be exposed it will dry out, become more brittle, & prone to cracking due to aging. The most supple the leather can be is on the live animal, who's body nourishes the hide. Neglecting to supply nutrients either oil based, or a more nourishing natural proteins, will result in rapid aging & no longer be useful. Leatherique nourishes leather, with proteins & other ingredients, so as to be more like, what the hide would get from a live animal.

Many leather treatments are clean, then condition, with an oil based conditioner. The Rejuvenator proteins, vitamins etc. is allowed to nourish, for as long as you leave it on (I suggest 8 hrs), so its not quite the same process as most leather treatments.

Think about this way "all" life forms are "organic" (scientific) meaning of organic, is all life forms are carbon based. Water h20 is inorganic, no carbon. Once & organic form dies, it no longer, has the the ability to maintain it's form, & unless something is done it will rot.

By treating leather with a high end product 1 or 2 times per year, (more natural like prod), the leather will stay supple. Failure overtime can result, in cracks, & emergency treatment to stop further degrading, neglected hides, can become candidates, for dye job, so as to bring back some beauty. Heat makes the decay process quicker, with the exception of heat by Rejuvenator, which nourishes & draws contaminants to the surface. So after treatment heat now becomes the enemy, should protect from damage for 6 - 12 mo. Your mileage may vary.

[conman1395]

Hi Astonmartin,

If you do not, treat the leather & allow it to be exposed it will dry out, become more brittle, & prone to cracking due to aging. The most supple the leather can be is on the live animal, who's body nourishes the hide. Neglecting to supply nutrients either oil based, or a more nourishing natural proteins, will result in rapid aging & no longer be useful. Leatherique nourishes leather, with proteins & other ingredients, so as to be more like, what the hide would get from a live animal.

Many leather treatments are clean, then condition, with an oil based conditioner. The Rejuvenator proteins, vitamins etc. is allowed to nourish, for as long as you leave it on (I suggest 8 hrs), so its not quite the same process as most leather treatments.

Think about this way "all" life forms are "organic" (scientific) meaning of organic, is all life forms are carbon based. Water h20 is inorganic, no carbon. Once & organic form dies, it no longer, has the the ability to maintain it's form, & unless something is done it will rot.

By treating leather with a high end product 1 or 2 times per year, (more natural like prod), the leather will stay supple. Failure overtime can result, in cracks, & emergency treatment to stop further degrading, neglected hides, can become candidates, for dye job, so as to bring back some beauty. Heat makes the decay process quicker, with the exception of heat by Rejuvenator, which nourishes & draws contaminants to the surface. So after treatment heat now becomes the enemy, should protect from damage for 6 - 12 mo. Your mileage may vary.

No leather conditioner is oil based. The rejuvenating oil isn't an oil, they just happen to call it that because people think that's what leather needs.

Leather doesn't really like oil in general actually.

[Ricorocks]

I'm not suggesting, the prime ingredient is "some" leather conditioners is Quaker State 20W-40, or Pennzoil Synthetic.

Some products use a derivative, or oil base, or oil derived by product.

What's important here is what distinguishes high end products, from low end products & what makes the difference, often times it comes down to the cost of ingredients used.

I still have Gloveoleum, you could pour this into a (crankcase), used for sold for conditioning, "baseball" gloves.

Likewise "SaddleSoap" oil derived, & high end Leather conditioners caution against using it, at it tends to dry the leather.

[FUNX650]

If you're not conditioning will keep the leather from drying out

I like the principles behind
Mike Phillips' "K.I.S.S.-system"...So:

When it comes to leather care, (for me), it's:
"Clean and Protect!"


Bob

[conman1395]

I'm not suggesting, the prime ingredient is "some" leather conditioners is Quaker State 20W-40, or Pennzoil Synthetic.

Some products use a derivative, or oil base, or oil derived by product.

What's important here is what distinguishes high end products, from low end products & what makes the difference, often times it comes down to the cost of ingredients used.

I still have Gloveoleum, you could pour this into a (crankcase), used for sold for conditioning, "baseball" gloves.

Likewise "SaddleSoap" oil derived, & high end Leather conditioners caution against using it, at it tends to dry the leather.

Uncoated leather is different than coated leather like that found in baseball gloves.

Anyway, straight from Leatherique's own site

"PLEASE NOTE that there is NO OIL in the Rejuvinator Oil that name is from the 1960's when people EXPECTED an OIL for their Leather. Hence the name change to LEATHER REJUVINATOR"

[Ricorocks]

Well!
conman1395 said:

No leather conditioner is oil based.

U want more examples? Than the two already given?

I have not made the claim, that Rejuvenator, is oil based. I've repeatedly said it contains: proteins, & nourishment for leather.

Furthermore SOME products sold to treat leather do contain & oil based ingredients.

[Ricorocks]

Well!
conman1395 said:



U want more examples? Than the two already given?

I have not made the claim, that Rejuvenator, is oil based. I've repeatedly said it contains: proteins, & nourishment for leather.

Furthermore SOME products sold to treat leather do contain & oil based ingredients.

"PLEASE NOTE that there is NO OIL in the Rejuvinator Oil that name is from the 1960's when people EXPECTED an OIL for their Leather. Hence the name change to LEATHER REJUVINATOR"

Quick review of my scribbling, I cannot see where I've used, Rejuvenator an oil TOGETHER, so as to imply that Leatherique's product contained oil.

[Ricorocks]

Some other products which contain oil or a oil based derivative, plus example of oil base derivative.

Note how lanolin is used to "moisturize" skin, I'll bet it does the same for leather.

Adding moisture back to leather, keeps it from drying out & rotting, hence lanolin oil, gives the oil based derivative, moisturizing Lanolin.

[FUNX650]

IMO:

1.) There seems to be an overall lack of understanding,
of the various leather "types"; and without knowing the
actual leather type: it stands to reason it's difficult to
select the correct leather care products.

2.) And what's with this yearning/burning desire to
"nourish/feed" auto-leather (RE: leather that's been
dead for quite awhile)...with oils and "conditioners""?!?!

3.) Marketing hype:
•I'll take what I consider a rather benign pathway and
say that some Companies, that market leather care
products, just may not always be forthcoming.

•Neatsfoot oil, lanolin, mink oil, collagen, saddle soap,
furniture polish, oil, varnish, ammonia, aloe, etc.:
These products have no place in auto leather care!



Bob