REVIEW: SON1C Protowax 36 vs. CG Pete 53

Dr_Pain

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First off, I would like to thank Drew for his tireless efforts. It is not every day that you meet a dedicated entrepreneur, whose dedication to his craft is so awe inspiring. Kudos to you my friend! :props:

I was one of the privileged few who was at the receiving end of SON1C's most generous giveaway. I received my package from Drew, and promptly opened it. To my surprise, not only did I receive my "prize", which was Protowax 36, but I also received a sampling of his Protowax 38. Talk about giddy as a kid on Christmas morning. :dblthumb2:

So right away I decided to devise a plan to "Test and Report", and fortunately for me, I had the perfect candidate lined up for the weekend. I had read a previous review in which the OP went through a full polish etc.. so I opted to put more of a "real life" twist to my "Test and Report", and chose to do a side by side comparative study (and longevity test) with my current "go to", which is CG Pete 53. As part of my "real life" testing process I opted to use the wax as we normally use waxes, which is as a topper to a paint sealant. I got permission from the owner to use her car as a test subject (with the promise of a FREE wax upgrade to their detail) and off I went.

Test Subject: 2013 Audi Q7 Supercharged
Detail Requested: Full exterior wash, clay, paint sealant and basic interior, w/ leather cleaning and conditioning
Supplies used (paint only): Dawn soap in 2 BM to wash and strip
- Nanoskin Autoscrub Wash Mitt Nanoskin AutoScrub Fine Grade Wash Mitt
- Mr Pink wash solution as lubricant Chemical Guys Mr. Pink Super Suds Shampoo, high foaming car soap
- CG Blacklight machine applied on a white LC flat pad Chemical Guys Black Light Hybrid Radiant Finish 16 oz.
- CG Pete 53 applied with a Pinnacle yellow foam applicator Chemical Guys Pete's 53'-Pearl Signature Paste Wax 8 oz
- SON1C Protowax 36 (which the owner selected at random)

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The Process: To be honest, it was a pretty straight forward stripping, claying process. Minor hand polishing was done to a couple of scuffs and surface scratches (using Menzerna 2500). Blacklight was machine applied to the whole car in a cross hatch pattern using a white LC pad, medium pressure, speed 4, x 4 passes. The product was allowed to cure 20 minutes and was removed using a Cobra 530. The whole Audi was treated to Pete 53, except for the hood which was left for testing purposes. It was split in the middle and each side received one of the product. As you can see from the picture, the passenger side received the Protowax and the driver side received Pete 53. The wax was allowed to haze and was removed with their respective microfiber to prevent cross contamination. The center tape line was carefully blended using Pete 53. The whole hand waxing process was done by me to provide a uniform technique throughout. My son (my business partner) helped me beautify this gem and was on hand to provide his comments and impression.

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Impressions: My first impression of the Protowax was that it was a deliciously smelling wax. My son was standing 10 feet away from me and immediately said that it reminded him of Hubba Bubba gum.... yum!! My second impression was that I was dealing with a VERY hard wax. I attempted to remove some product with the Pinnacle applicator and it was (sorry to say) frustrating! I attempted to do a hand/finger application, but faced the same unyielding block of wax. Don't get me wrong, I did extract a little of the product and applied it to the hood but it felt as though I was trying to get product out of a paraffin block. Nevertheless, I was able to remove enough product (by hand) to start on the hood, and to lubricate my applicator. I was then able to remove additional product from the tin with the applicator and finished layering a thin coat on the passenger side of the hood. Although it was somewhat of a fight and kind of frustrating, I used very little of the product (in comparison with Pete 53) to accomplish full coverage of the hood.

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The application itself, once the applicator was properly loaded, was without issues. It did feel more "grabby" then Pete 53 which feels like you are applying butter. The added surface tension was also noticed upon removal of the product. Once both products were removed a new MF was used to evaluate the slickness while transitioning from one side to the other and the increase surface tension was definitely noticeable even after removal and buffing of the product (as evaluated by both my son and myself).

At first glance, the optical qualities were almost identical between the 2 waxes. The Protowax did not mute the flake, did not cloud the reflection and provided the very same luster as the Pete 53, which is not a bad thing since I love Pete 53 so much.

The car was pulled into the evening sun and reevaluated. Again, nothing but love for the results!!... and no difference in appearance from one side to the other. Now as far as smell is concerned, the lingering bubble gum scent was intoxicating and a much more attractive smell then the coconut smell of Pete 53

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So now for the real test...... Beading and Shedding!!

We pulled the water hose and sprayed the hood with a disrupted water flow. This produced 2 incredible results. The first were an INCREDIBLE shedding effect and some nice lingering beading, on both side.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsRe7DjABy8]SON1C Protowax 36 Update #1 Part 1/2 - YouTube[/video]

The Protowax side offered a small consistent bead, whereas Pete 53 offered a slightly bigger bead. Don't get me wrong the beads you get from disrupted water flow on a hood is never as pretty as natural rain fall or light misting. I would have to give a very slim margin win to Pete 53 on the beads. I did fail to take a good picture of the Pete 53 bead but here is one of the Protowax 36.

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As far as shedding, I am happy to report that Protowax wins that one. Both side shed water very well but the Protowax 36 sheds as if I had OC 2.0 on the paint. SEXY!!!! Im the MAN


The Score:
Smell:
- CG Pete 53: 7/10
- Protowax 36: 9/10 WIN!!
Ease of removal (out of the jar)
- CG Pete 53: 9/10 WIN!!
- Protowax 36: 3/10
Ease of application:
- CG Pete 53: 9/10 WIN!!
- Protowax 36: 6/10
Amount of product used/required
- CG Pete 53: 7/10
- Protowax 36: 9/10 WIN!!
Ease of removal/buffing
- CG Pete 53: 8/10 TIE!
- Protowax 36: 8/10 TIE!
Reflection/optical qualities
- CG Pete 53: 8/10 TIE!
- Protowax 36: 8/10 TIE!
Beading
- CG Pete 53: 8/10 WIN!!
- Protowax 36: 7/10
Shedding
- CG Pete 53: 8/10
- Protowax 36: 9.8/10 MAJOR WIN!!
Longevity:...... I will use this thread to update on the longevity/torture test.

Conclusion:
Overall, I am very impressed by the Protowax 36. I know that SON1C is still in his evil laboratory improving on his "latest and greatest" Protowax, so I won't be surprised if he takes all the constructive criticism and comes up with a product to put all our "go to" carnuba wax to shame.

I am planning on experimenting a little more with this one and will be reporting on the Protowax 38 but I need to come up with a better method to soften the wax (maybe exposing it in the sun for a few minutes before application, or using a hot water bath). Unfortunately the Protowax will only be reserved for the people I truly love and for whom I don't mind spending the extra time waxing their vehicles. In my opinion, it is not ready for the production work yet!
 
Sweet review Claude! I've had the same gripes about application for 36. Can't wait to hear your thoughts on 38. I will be applying a new batch Friday and will report results.
 
Claude first, excellent review and writeup, quality work, great videos, and thorough without excessive length -- top notch!
I appreciate all of the feedback, think of 36 as 38's predecessor, JSou has been testing my waxes rigorously as I have myself, he had similar gripes as you with 36 hence why 36 has become an antique here in my "evil laboratory" haha ;)

Thanks again for taking the time, and looking forward to further feedback on 36 and even more so 38
 
Thanks for all the positive comments.

@ rock, I obviously did a little more off camera testing but if you look at the HD version of the second video, you will see that the passenger side shed faster and more completely. The Pete 53 side had a lot more residual beads on the paint whereas the Protowax side had minimal beads and what was left was fast collecting and shedding. If your eye can't really see it then you will just have to trust my experience (same with the incredible smell which does not carry well through the written media). If my intentions were to deceive then I would have just praised the glories of the Protowax. As you saw, I somehow did the opposite by providing the above constructive criticism.

@ Drew, I have a "sweetie" planned for this weekend. I will try and convinced the owner to allow me to use their car as a test subject in order to try Protowax 38.
 
That was a very fair review. I've been quietly following his wax thread and look forward to future reviews.
 
I actually looked to see if I had a better video to show what I was seeing (shedding), and unfortunately I don't. BUT I did look back a the videos and if you look at the first one again (with the disrupted water flow), you will see at the end that the passenger side had a much better shedding and less residual water on the section sprayed.

I did spend quite a time playing with the hose and I was VERY impressed..... and did want to report on that! In my opinion, it is a big win for SON1C PW 36 (although I did have my gripes).

One thing I did not report on because it was an impression which I did not have a video to share, but once we were done playing with the water, I broke out my trusting Stihl leaf blower and blew the car dry. AGAIN, SON1C PW 36 was my winner at how easy the water was shedding/drying off. Don't get me wrong, the Pete 53 was dry as a bone after blowing (with the exception of the few straggler which I dried with a waffle weave MF), but it looked more "grippy" and required a little more effort to dry off.

Anyone else tried blowing off their car after application and testing of their PW? You will be impressed!
 
Very useful info. Thanks for being thorough. I too am a Pete's 53 fan. After using it, it seems like anything else you use, you end up comparing it to Pete's 53.
 
I would agree about the initial difficulty getting the pot 'broken in' but once you break through the top layer, I find it much easier to get out. I also agree about it being similar in looks to Pete's 53 as I know you saw in my review. I'm wondering if there are slight differences in batch or aging since I thought my pw36 went on very similar to Pete's 53 after getting through the top layer.

Nice review.
 
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