Done with Edge!

[lecchilo]

Originally Posted by GearHead_1

Actually LC was mentioned by the original poster, only natural that they might be used as an example. As far as keeping your feelings out of the post, you shouldn't. You should be able to voice your opinion just like anyone else. I know you understand this as I've read your comments to Aaron a number of times in the past and it's apparent they haven't changed. For me personally, I've had 4 backing plate failures over the years and many more Velcro detachment problems. I'm lucky, I've never damaged a finish because of one of these failures. Many of the Velcro problems were related to Meguiars pads but I've also had problems with LC. The way I look at it is simple, stuff happens regardless of whose product is involved. Sometimes it's a matter of a product wearing out and sometimes there are errors on the manufacturers part. That said, often times it's user error and that's the hardest one for me to admit. All in all I'm still a big Edge fan.

Ok I lied... I didn't unsubscribe...

While I agree that every manufacturer might have a bad product or two, how can you possibly say backing plates coming apart is users error ? You screw the backing plate or edge adapter onto your rotary/PC, put the pad on, and turn the machine on... you're not throwing the machine across the garage or hammering your car with it...

As for personal opinions, people should NOT post them here, because it's the original poster's opinion that counts. I've been more than happy with LC pads and LC backing plates without 1 issue (not counting the bad pads from CMA, but ones from autogeek are perfect for years) and that's the only reason I told him congrats, meaning he'll like LC...

Everyone just edit your posts to "good luck" and let the original poster talk to aaron if he wants, or stay with his decision of LC/velcro system... it's that symple...

Now let's all and rob AG a little through their current sale

[Mr Dream Machines]

Great reading with this thread

I am sure that edge's double sided system is brilliant and I will be installing that on my oldest makita 9227 when I get a new one but at the moment, single sided velcro is still great to use

The trouble I have with edge as stated in my first post is open cell.
I will now add to that - the crappiest glue that the velcro attaches to.
You can't machine wash edge pads more than twice as the velcro backing and glue come away from the pad.
Even cleaning a pad under a tap is a problem.
The edge green pad seems out of balance as it causes the machine to hop around and fight me.
I also have trouble with the pads losing their shape and going out of balance after a dozen uses.

With the open cell, more polish is used, dead single stage paint will be trapped in the pad and you can never get the colour back to new. A partially or completely closed cell pad is my preference and why I moved to LC. Don't know who makes sonus DAS but they are brilliant as well.

For some strange reason unknown to me, I can rectify paint defects with a softer LC pad that a stronger edge pad won't.

I'm sure that aaron and the gang at edge will improve their system and I will definately try any new pads they release.

[D&D Auto Detailing]

Maybe Ill keep the Edge stuff and use it as my back up.

I didnt expect this thread to turn into 5 pages. That just goes to show you how many different opinions there are about the system, both good and bad.

So yes Im still pretty upset, and not happy with my Edge system. But theres one thing we can all agree on, both systems will fail, its just a matter of when. So I think using one or the other as a back up is a good idea. Itll also make everyone happy and my bank account smaller.

[killrwheels@autogeek]

the issue here remains personal preference, their is obviously pro's and con's in every pad and designer.

[BlackCoupe]

Originally Posted by Mr Dream Machines

Great reading with this thread

I am sure that edge's double sided system is brilliant and I will be installing that on my oldest makita 9227 when I get a new one but at the moment, single sided velcro is still great to use

The trouble I have with edge as stated in my first post is open cell.
I will now add to that - the crappiest glue that the velcro attaches to.
You can't machine wash edge pads more than twice as the velcro backing and glue come away from the pad.
Even cleaning a pad under a tap is a problem.
The edge green pad seems out of balance as it causes the machine to hop around and fight me.
I also have trouble with the pads losing their shape and going out of balance after a dozen uses.

With the open cell, more polish is used, dead single stage paint will be trapped in the pad and you can never get the colour back to new. A partially or completely closed cell pad is my preference and why I moved to LC. Don't know who makes sonus DAS but they are brilliant as well.

For some strange reason unknown to me, I can rectify paint defects with a softer LC pad that a stronger edge pad won't.

I'm sure that aaron and the gang at edge will improve their system and I will definately try any new pads they release.

I will now add to that - the crappiest glue that the velcro attaches to.

What velcro are you referring to?

[Surfer]

Originally Posted by BlackCoupe

I will now add to that - the crappiest glue that the velcro attaches to.

What velcro are you referring to?

Yeh I didn't get that either, theres no velcro? And why would you machine wash any pad, the velcro is known to delaminate in the machine as well. Just sit the pads in a bucket of water mixed with some apc or other cleaner. I leave my Edge pads in a bucket filled with hotwater and cleaner overnight, come out perfect the next morning, just rinse them off with fresh water. Heck I do the same for microfibers, leave sit in a hot water combo with cleaner before putting in the washer, gets a ton of the crap and chemicals and product out of them.

[D&D Auto Detailing]

The detailing gods are punishing me for making this thread.

After 1 years worth of use...

[wytstang]

Originally Posted by D&D Auto Detailing

The detailing gods are punishing me for making this thread.

After 1 years worth of use...

Maybe the pc is getting too hot?

[ryandamartini]

my pads are going strong...

and it does not suck up huge amounts of polish if used correctly in my experiences, maybe a few pea sized dots for one polishing area and it goes fine.. make sure to lubricate your pads. it also depends if you are using the pc how much pressure you put into them.. the PC stops spinning effectively after around 10lbs of pressure.

[GearHead_1]

Originally Posted by lecchilo

While I agree that every manufacturer might have a bad product or two, how can you possibly say backing plates coming apart is users error ?

Easy, the very way that you peel a pad on and off can destroy not only the loop of the velcro but the hook on the pad. Maybe it's only me but being in a hurry I've torn backing plates.

Originally Posted by lecchilo

As for personal opinions, people should NOT post them here, because it's the original poster's opinion that counts.

I can only assume you are joking. That's what forums are made of, differing opinions.

Originally Posted by lecchilo

Everyone just edit your posts to "good luck" and let the original poster talk to aaron... it's that symple...

Your right about one thing. It is that simple. If that's all the poster needs let him PM Aaron and save the forum from all the silly comments in this thread.