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04-12-2007, 11:30 PM
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| | | I Cry Foul on Product Working Time I'm sorry, but I call "FOUL" on these videos and instructions that tell me to work the PCDA for "Three to five minutes with a quarter-size amount of product over a 2X2 area". I would be extremely interested to know in the H*** get that working time. Really -- who? Time it. I get one pass, maybe two if I spritz--and it is about a minute, absolute tops. Indoors. | 
04-12-2007, 11:40 PM
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| | | What polish are you using? I know first-hand Optimum polishes can easily be worked for that long. | 
04-12-2007, 11:41 PM
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| | | what products are you using? in all reality, you should be looking more at like 5-7 minutes for the same 2x2ft. area...
makes sure the car is cool to the touch, out of sunlight, and you spread the product at speed 3. then move up to a speed 5 with a slower movement for a pass. then finish up with speed 6 and slighty faster movement.
i use xmt in direct sunlight with no problems for 7 minutes, SOMETIMES needing a spray of lubricant (quick detailer).
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04-12-2007, 11:50 PM
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| | | jesus, do you guys spend like 3 hours buffing your car then, damn. I can not imagine spending 7 minutes in one section. What if you are doing 2-3 steps, that's a whole day, damn, y'all need a rotary. | 
04-13-2007, 12:08 AM
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| | | Optimum can be worked that long.... | 
04-13-2007, 12:09 AM
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Originally Posted by BetaB jesus, do you guys spend like 3 hours buffing your car then, damn. I can not imagine spending 7 minutes in one section. What if you are doing 2-3 steps, that's a whole day, damn, y'all need a rotary. | Many guys do spend close to 6-8 hours polishing w/ multiple steps.
If you are using good products, and are faimilar with pad/polish combo's you rarely need 2 steps with a PC.
I very much enjoy XMT polishes in the sun. They break down quickly but correct quickly. I can do an entire hood in about 5-8 minutes. Not bad considering that's usually the largest panel. Also, it's LSP ready after one combo. | 
04-14-2007, 09:44 AM
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| | | your environment will place alot of control over product work time. Humditity, dampness, dryness all play a part. | 
04-14-2007, 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by killrwheels@autogeek your environment will place alot of control over product work time. Humditity, dampness, dryness all play a part. | Palm Beach Gardens, bro. About same as you. I also suspect that engine heat, heat from the sun, gets the car heated up, and even though I am working in the garage, the retained heat it bakes the product. | 
04-15-2007, 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Whitethunder46 Many guys do spend close to 6-8 hours polishing w/ multiple steps.
If you are using good products, and are faimilar with pad/polish combo's you rarely need 2 steps with a PC.
I very much enjoy XMT polishes in the sun. They break down quickly but correct quickly. I can do an entire hood in about 5-8 minutes. Not bad considering that's usually the largest panel. Also, it's LSP ready after one combo. | Ok. Good example. You said:
"I can do an entire hood in about 5-8 minutes."
I am gonna say that in an "entire hood", unless you are working on a Mini Cooper, we are talking about at least 5 2X2 areas. And you do a hood in 5-8 minutes, that is about 1 2X2 area in 1min to 1min 36 seconds. Are you using a rotary or a DA (cuz my post was about DA)? I am assumng you let the product break down (because of the diminshing abrasives, right)? | 
04-16-2007, 08:02 AM
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| | | Takes me a good 30-45 minutes to do one step on my hood with a PC and Optimum.
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