Need help on pad/paste wax application. Also PC 7336sp vs 7424

[tamvegas]

Hi everyone. new to this forum. Just discovered AG a couple weeks ago after scoring a great deal on a PC 7336SP for $50. Needed pads etc and found my way to AG. Very glad I did. Seems to be a great community!
The PC 7336SP has identical specs to the 7424 except it's packaged as a DA sander/polisher. And it works beautifully!!

Anyone else have any experience with the model 7336SP I found? And incidentally it was at Lowes in a close-out bin.

I got a set of LC CCF pads and used them last weeked. With 3M Perfect it foam polish I got beautiful results in just a couple hours. 90% of the swirl marks are gone but some old water marks held on. I think I need to go a bit more aggresive. Going to order Perfect-it II machine polish. I used the light cut green pad. Probably should go to the orange and work the polish longer too. Does that sound appropriate?

I didn't use a sealer as I had a fresh tin of Meguirs NXT paste, which I like.
She looks really nice, but I think I can get a much deeper richer shine and am thinking of taking advantage of the Sourevan sale.
This is on my 2000 Bright Red BMW 328ci sports coupe.

My Problem ---
Everything went great till I applied the NXT Paste. It went on fine and looks great, but the gray LC CCS pad seemed to absorb Huge amounts of the paste! I used over a third of the tin on one coat. And the pad weighed about three times the new weight afterwards (it's been drying for 3 days and is still moist) . Like I always did with with the double-handed orbital buffer I used to use I applied the NXT paste to the pad by "buttering" it with a butter knife. May sound weird, but it's always worked fine before.
Now, before I drop the cash for Sourean, I need to find out how it should be done! I figure I should get 6 to 8 coats out of a tin. Am I off base?

All advice welcome.

Thanks All,

[Jmunk]

You might be better off applying the paste wax by hand.

[BILL]

[quote=Jmunk]You might be better off applying the paste wax by hand.




I like to feel the application by hand........but i did at one time use the grey pad and did remove souveran from the container and spread on the pad then applied.....went back to the hand application....just a personal choice i guess...

[ryandamartini]

I aply by hand. PC pads tend to suck up alot of wax.

[JSR]

You should get at least 20-30 coats per tin. I used to do almost the same thing your doing, more is better, right? Then I came to this forum.
Welcome to the asylum by the way.
The key to paste is how thin can you make the coat, not how much can you put on.
Usually i do put it on by hand but occasionally I do machine it.
I use either grey or blue 4" LC pad working sections (1/4 hood)
Spray the pad with QD or Pinn pad conditioner (2-3 spritzes) Add a spritz every couple of panels to keep pad damp.
Lay PC down pad up
Take Souveran tin so the wax wants to come out (like a solid deoderant in its holder) and just wipe it across the pad once. DO NOT LET THE WAX FALL OUT AND HIT GROUND! ITS DONE IF YOU DO. Thats enough wax for the section.
Spread the wax over the section a little before turning machine on.
Machine on speed 3-4 moving semi-quickly with little pressure. You are just covering the area and spreading the wax. You should just barely be able to see its there. Slight haze, thats all.
I usually use the machine for the first coat only after a polish. I think it gives you more opportunities to make sure the wax is attached to the paint. The machine goes over the same spot more times than my arm can.
Remember, light coats.

PS sorry about the double take. Mods, please delete the second message

[JSR]

You should get at least 20-30 coats per tin. I used to do almost the same thing your doing, more is better, right? Then I came to this forum.
Welcome to the asylum by the way.
The key to paste is how thin can you make the coat, not how much can you put on.
Usually i do put it on by hand but occasionally I do machine it.
I use either grey or blue 4" LC pad working sections (1/4 hood)
Spray the pad with QD or Pinn pad conditioner (2-3 spritzes)
Lay PC down pad up
Take Souveran tin so the wax wants to come out (like a solid deoderant in its holder) and just wipe it across the pad once. DO NOT

[killrwheels@autogeek]

The 7424 and 7336 are identical in purpose, just sold to different clients. One as a sander, the other as a polisher. Nice find on the clearance buffer.

I too highly suggest application of wax via hand. You should use around 1 ounce max in a liquid and about 1/2 in paste. Foam is my aplicator of choice. Removal is your choice, just remember straight lines to avoid swirls by hand or using microfiber bonnets over buffer with slower speeds to remove with the PC.

[dengood1]

I would like to see Edge, Lake Country, or any of the pad manufacturers make a soft wax/sealant application pad for the PC. One that would be about half the thickness of a full size pad and say 4" to use with the smaller backing plate. This would greatly ease the use of a PC to apply waxes and sealants and definitely would limit the amount of product absorbed into the pad. I would definitely purchase some if available because I like using the pc to apply and buff off afterwards. Just a thought I see they came out with a smaller 5.5" white polishing pad for the backing plate like the 5.5" orange cutting pad. The finessing pad would even be great at that size and thickness.

Aaron.....ya listenin'? hint, hint...

if sales are good enough, I'd like a cut:-) Just kidding......how about a "sampler pad" to test;-) lol

[BILL]

Originally Posted by dengood1

I would like to see Edge, Lake Country, or any of the pad manufacturers make a soft wax/sealant application pad for the PC. One that would be about half the thickness of a full size pad and say 4" to use with the smaller backing plate. This would greatly ease the use of a PC to apply waxes and sealants and definitely would limit the amount of product absorbed into the pad. I would definitely purchase some if available because I like using the pc to apply and buff off afterwards. Just a thought I see they came out with a smaller 5.5" white polishing pad for the backing plate like the 5.5" orange cutting pad. The finessing pad would even be great at that size and thickness.

Aaron.....ya listenin'? hint, hint...

GREAT IDEA .....I second that

[dengood1]

Originally Posted by BILL

GREAT IDEA .....I second that

Bill, I made a new thread dedicated to this idea feeling it was worthy of a discussion......go post your feelings