Big thumbs up to EDGE!

[Kelso]

ok thanks for answering, that is why i bought my rotary i just need to get scrap panels to work on before doing real cars. and actually a friend of mine said i could come to his car lot and do any of the cars that are for sale! so im definately going to take that chance... the PC is quite tough on taking out problems but i generally run it at speed 6 for swirls, i dont like waxing or bufing with a PC so thats all i use it for thus far, but rotary will replace it

[The Edge]

Originally Posted by Kelso

ok thanks for answering, that is why i bought my rotary i just need to get scrap panels to work on before doing real cars. and actually a friend of mine said i could come to his car lot and do any of the cars that are for sale! so im definately going to take that chance... the PC is quite tough on taking out problems but i generally run it at speed 6 for swirls, i dont like waxing or bufing with a PC so thats all i use it for thus far, but rotary will replace it

Why don't you like it for waxing? I think that is what it works best for. Before I switched over to Cyclo I would put the pc on 3.5 and instead of using a wax applicator pad and elbow grease, I just apply with a soft foam all around the car. By the time I am done, the wax or polish is dry, and I just flip the pad over to a soft dry side and then use the machine again to take if off instead of a MF and elbow grease again. Moving a machine back and forth over the paint is MUCH MUCH easier than rubbing wax on and off in circular motions that use shoulder as well as arm muscles. Try it, you will LOVE IT!

[Kelso]

well at work we use pnuematic da's and i like using those to wax and buff but i cant stand using the PC for it....its just not as easy for me as doing it by hand. i can go faster by hand than i can with a PC, im a pretty quick guy in that respect lol

[joe.p]

Originally Posted by The Edge

Moving a machine back and forth over the paint is MUCH MUCH easier than rubbing wax on and off in circular motions that use shoulder as well as arm muscles. Try it, you will LOVE IT!

Wax should be applied and removed in back and forth motion in order to reduce swirls

Aaron I couldn't resist

[MikeyC]

Originally Posted by joe.p

Wax should be applied and removed in back and forth motion in order to reduce swirls

A lot of people will agree with your statement Joe. However, it's still a subject that is debated to some degree. Some say straight lines and some say it doesn't matter. For example, ask Mike Phillips from Meguiar's for instance and he'll say it doesn't matter. Mike is undoubtedly one of the most respected people in detailing and he disagrees with you.

I'm not saying anyone is right or wrong. I'm only saying there are two sides to the story.

[matt@autogeek.net]

Originally Posted by The Edge

Why don't you like it for waxing? I think that is what it works best for. Before I switched over to Cyclo I would put the pc on 3.5 and instead of using a wax applicator pad and elbow grease, I just apply with a soft foam all around the car. By the time I am done, the wax or polish is dry, and I just flip the pad over to a soft dry side and then use the machine again to take if off instead of a MF and elbow grease again. Moving a machine back and forth over the paint is MUCH MUCH easier than rubbing wax on and off in circular motions that use shoulder as well as arm muscles. Try it, you will LOVE IT!

You've got me thinking about trying out my Cyclo polisher again, especially once I get ahold of some Edge 2000 pads that will fit the machine.

[joe.p]

Originally Posted by MikeyC

A lot of people will agree with your statement Joe. However, it's still a subject that is debated to some degree. Some say straight lines and some say it doesn't matter. For example, ask Mike Phillips from Meguiar's for instance and he'll say it doesn't matter. Mike is undoubtedly one of the most respected people in detailing and he disagrees with you.

I'm not saying anyone is right or wrong. I'm only saying there are two sides to the story.

iirc, Mike also states there is no such thing as a wax for light or darker vehicles as CC is paint without pigment(correct me if pigment is the wrong term)but many vendors market there wax as such.

MikeyC ,in noway am i second guessing you ,as your exp along with Mike Phillips far out ways mine,when you mentioned Mike Phillips the first thing that came to mind was a statemant i read in regards to waxes..

I know a little off topic,but the wax theory is something i have thought about for some time..
Thanks for the input