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10-16-2006, 05:52 PM
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| | Please let me know if this makes sense... Hi all;
I've got some questions that I hope you all could help me with. I just got a new car, an '06 Acura TL. It's Black. About 3 days after taking delivery of the car, I noticed that it was loaded up with small swirls and some spider-webbing. None of the swirls can be caught with my fingernails, and the paint does feel pretty smooth. I'd like to give it a good detailing before winter sets in. I live in the Northeast, so that should be like, this weekend!
Here's what I have to date.
PC 7424 w/Edge Pad Kit
XMT 2 & 1 Swirl Remover
Pinnacle Paint Cleanser
Pinnacle Liquid Sov Wax
AG Foam Gun w/DP Foam Gun "stuff"
WG clay kit with the Palm applicator thingy ( Checked the manufacturers site, and I do believe that is the technical description)
Various cleaners for the interior (Pinnacle, also from AG.net)
What I'd like to do to detail the car is the following:
Wash: Foam Gun w/Boars head Brush, yet to be ordered.
Paint Cleanser
XMT 2 & 1 for Swirl Removal
Polish - What would you all recommend for black?
Glaze - What would you all recommend for black?
Wax - I'm thinking Pinnacle Sov Paste? Can I use that with a PC?
So my questions are as follows:
Does this process make sense to you all?
What pads (Edge System) would I be using for each step (I need to order spares)? So far I am pretty comfortable with the orange cutting pad, and very comfortable with the blue and white.
Do the products that I have so far make sense, or is there something easier or better ( I know, that's a relative term)?
Please keep in mind that I am a novice when it comes to detailing, but have gotten a boatload of practice with the PC on my old Deere tractor. Whenever possible, small words would be easiest for me to understand..LOL.
Thanks in advance. | 
10-16-2006, 06:18 PM
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| | | Well if the swirls are really minor, try polishing with XMT #1 and the orange pad. Should come off with a perfect surface.
Paint cleanser - I assume you are talking about the cleansing lotion and you want to use that AFTER polishing but before waxing. Don't use it before polishing.
Glaze - XMT glaze has been getting rave reviews and I think you will like it.
Wax - Souveran paste can't be beat really. You can use it with a PC, but no need since it is SUPER easy to use. | 
10-16-2006, 06:35 PM
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| | | So, then the process would be:
Wash
XMT 2 & 1 for Swirl Removal
Polish
Glaze
Paint Cleanser
Wax
Yes? | 
10-16-2006, 06:47 PM
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| | | Wash ---- Clay --- Polish --- Protect
XMT is a polish ... and no need to use a paint cleaner after polishing. You should only use a glaze if using a carnauba based wax. Souveran paste is a great choice and works well with RMG. | 
10-16-2006, 06:54 PM
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| | | Since this is your last good detail before winter, wouldn't you rather use a Sealant instead of the glaze and wax? Can always top the sealant with your Souveran.
Since my SUV sits outdoors 24/7, I removed the XMT glaze and NB wax this weekend and applied Poorboys EX-P sealant. It was getting a little nippy. Temps were 50 deg, with a 15 mph wind. I'll apply a 2nd coat of EX-P next weekend, and then probably top it off with PB Natty's wax. Sealants protection lasts longer than wax. About 4 months.
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10-16-2006, 07:18 PM
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| | | Since sealant seems to last longer than wax, would it make more sense to wax, then top with sealant, or no? | 
10-16-2006, 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by mrodriques Since sealant seems to last longer than wax, would it make more sense to wax, then top with sealant, or no? | Sealant won't bond with wax. I know what you mean though. When I first came onto the Forum, I wanted to use the XMT glaze, then sealant and then wax. But that's a big No No. The sealant needs to bond with your paint.
Someone else like killrwheels can explain this better.
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2006 Nissan Sentra 1.8S / Inferno | 
10-16-2006, 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by mrodriques Since sealant seems to last longer than wax, would it make more sense to wax, then top with sealant, or no? | Seal then wax, or you'll end up with a smear fest.
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10-16-2006, 07:41 PM
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| | | If you are looking for best durability sealant - Klasse twins is the way to go. Two coats of SG 12-24 hours apart in absolutely dry conditions should last you 4 months. Then top it off with liquid Souveran and you are all set for winter.
That's my plan of attack for my RL.
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10-16-2006, 07:42 PM
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| | | OK. I'm glad I posted here, and thanks for all your help so far. So it looks like the process is going to be:
Wash - AG Foam Gun with a boars hair brush.
Clay - I have the WG somethingorother kit, and will use that
Swirl Removal - XMT 1 w/orange pad
Polish?? - Still unclear on what I need to do here..
Wax - Can you recommend a sealant to use as opposed to the Sov paste wax? With winter approaching, will this protect and last longer?
Question on Swirl Removal. If I use the XMT 1 with orange cutting pad, and determine that I still have swirls, can I go up to the XMT 2, or should I start with 2 and step down?
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