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Old 07-10-2008, 08:25 PM
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I am not getting the desired results!!!!

I am trying to correct the paint on a friends race car. Even using 6.5 inch yellow pad with Optimum compound and working it real long I can't even get this clear to haze. After that fiasco I just used OC on an orange pad and then OP on a white pad to make the finish smooth(Felt like sandpaper before)and topped with some #845 to at least offer some protection. I used the white pads the previous day on my Toyota and the OC definitely left some hazing that had to cleaned up with the polish. Am I just beating a brick wall here? How do I know if my pads are getting less effective? I have the stock UDM backing plate and I am wondering if 6.5 inch pads are too large for that unit? There is probably 1/2 inch of pad extended past the plate and I am starting to see indenting in the centre of the pad if I put some pressure on the head while making passes. I threw the yellow pad out today because the middle seemed to have lost all strength. All my pads are about a year old and have probably been used about a dozen times, is this replacement time? I hate to keep asking the same type of questions but I would like to get good enough at this that I could do it on the side for a fee. Plus I love the look of a really clean car so its not really like work for me anyways.

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Old 07-10-2008, 09:20 PM
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Re: I am not getting the desired results!!!!

Might want to go with a smaller backing plate and 4" pads. I'm in the same situation sometimes on harder paint but I've been experimenting with 4" orange pads and Meguire's 105 followed by Poli-seal and after a couple weeks, I still like what I see. I'm sure there's a better combo but I like it. What did your friend think of the results?
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Old 07-10-2008, 11:10 PM
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Re: I am not getting the desired results!!!!

My friend understood that my supplies weren't quite up to this job. I have the 3.5 inch plate and I have one 4 inch orange pad left but the other ones all gave up the ghost not long after I started using them. Too much pressure caused the middles to fail until I found there limit. LOL. I thought the 105 was designed for rotaries?? My concern is that if I can't find the right combo I don't want to haze his finish and then not be able to restore the shine. I may try the Sonus 6 inch pads to see if they stand up better to some pressure.

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Old 07-10-2008, 11:26 PM
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Re: I am not getting the desired results!!!!

What brand 4" pads do you have?
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Old 07-10-2008, 11:41 PM
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Re: I am not getting the desired results!!!!

Not really sure. LC CCS pads but not sure what profile they are considered. Bought here from Autogeek last Oct.. They look exactly like my 6.5 CCS pads if that helps.

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Old 07-11-2008, 12:02 AM
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Re: I am not getting the desired results!!!!

Heres a couple of shots of my nemesis. Oh well I guess its the tough ones that teach us the most.



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Old 07-11-2008, 12:13 AM
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Re: I am not getting the desired results!!!!

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I am trying to correct the paint on a friends race car. Even using 6.5 inch yellow pad with Optimum compound and working it real long I can't even get this clear to haze. After that fiasco I just used OC on an orange pad and then OP on a white pad to make the finish smooth(Felt like sandpaper before)and topped with some #845 to at least offer some protection. I used the white pads the previous day on my Toyota and the OC definitely left some hazing that had to cleaned up with the polish. Am I just beating a brick wall here? How do I know if my pads are getting less effective? I have the stock UDM backing plate and I am wondering if 6.5 inch pads are too large for that unit? There is probably 1/2 inch of pad extended past the plate and I am starting to see indenting in the centre of the pad if I put some pressure on the head while making passes. I threw the yellow pad out today because the middle seemed to have lost all strength. All my pads are about a year old and have probably been used about a dozen times, is this replacement time? I hate to keep asking the same type of questions but I would like to get good enough at this that I could do it on the side for a fee. Plus I love the look of a really clean car so its not really like work for me anyways.

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I had the same problem on my mustang (stock paint), using 6.5 pads and OP polishes got me no where. Switched to Menzerna SIP and a light cutting pad 5.5 (UDM) and problem solved.
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Re: I am not getting the desired results!!!!

Id get some 4" pads and try again
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