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[Excessive Detail]

Has anyone had problems with the new CCS Pads, cause last saturday I was doing a light polish on my buddies black Z with Klasse AIO and an orange CCS pad with my flex on 4 and managed to completely cover the car in maring, which I din't notice till I rolled it out in the sun to wax. I din't think to check during because this has never happened to me before, I mean I used the exact same combo on my car not to long ago and it came out perfect without any maring. I actually did my car at a higher speed than 4 adn still no marring. Anybody have any ideas of what going on here, I'm freakin at a loss? Thanks

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Not enough heat or friction to break down the polish? I have noticed this with various polishes at lower speeds, that or something on the pad, but that would be unlikely since it was the entire car.

[Excessive Detail]

I was thinking that may be the case, but I was using AIO, which to my knowledge has no abrasives in it and shouldn't do that, but I could be wrong.

[MotorCity Honda]

The orange pad is a cutting pad (light). I always follow up with a white polishing pad.

Orange pad by nature will leave micro marring and in my usage/to my standards does not finish LSP ready.

Now some will say "on light colored paints I have finished with an orange and it was lsp ready".. to that I say why do you treat paint differently based on color? Makes no sense to me, treating paint different based on CC yes, based on color n0 = just because light colors hide marring easier doesn't mean it's not there.

So, in short - I would expect some marring when using an orange pad as it is a cutting pad - I would suspect you DO have the same marring on your paint but you just aren't looking hard enough to see it since it's white paint (based on your avatar)

[blkyukon]

Originally Posted by Excessive Detail

Has anyone had problems with the new CCS Pads, cause last saturday I was doing a light polish on my buddies black Z with Klasse AIO and an orange CCS pad with my flex on 4 and managed to completely cover the car in maring, which I din't notice till I rolled it out in the sun to wax. I din't think to check during because this has never happened to me before, I mean I used the exact same combo on my car not to long ago and it came out perfect without any maring. I actually did my car at a higher speed than 4 adn still no marring. Anybody have any ideas of what going on here, I'm freakin at a loss? Thanks

Like MotorCity Honda said, the cut of the orange pad is the cause of the marring...not the CCS pad itself.


Working on black or dark non metallic colored cars is a whole different ball game and IMO polishing black is the only way to truely learn and understand how to polish and use a machine.

For example, on a light colored car, when using a finishing polish you can slack off and not work it in all the way and it'll still look great. Now with a black car, you have to make sure to break down the polish properly and not to under or over work it or you'll leave a hazy finish.

Light colored cars hide so much hazing/micromarring that I've been able to use a cutting pad with SSR3 on a pewter colored car and after I'm done it looks ready for LSP...does it mean it's not there, no, you just can't see it.

[Surfer]

I've had to use finishing pad on black, but most blacks are also softer nevermind that black shows the slightest marring. On my light colored vehicles, I can finish down a compound with a cutting pad and looks perfect, even with a halogen there is barely any micromarring showing. I've never seen anybody finish down a compound or polish with cutting pad on black and not gotten any micromarring.

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didnt really notice that you stated orange pad, I would say that is it for sure, I always use a white or black , sometimes blue to finish black paint, especially if with a DA, blk or blue

[Mr Dream Machines]

Definately sounds like you didn't break down the polish properly or you didn't slow down the speed of the machine to finish.
You can definately finish LSP ready on most colours with an orange but it's alot of time to do that.

My working time is three to four and a half minutes with a rotary when I use every polish regardless of steps.

[MotorCity Honda]

Originally Posted by Mr Dream Machines

You can definately finish LSP ready on most colours with an orange but it's alot of time to do that.

I've yet to finish down to lsp levels with an orange pad.

I mean I guess if I had to settle I could but the added gloss and wetness that using a light polishing pad (white or blue) that will *jewel* the paint is something I love. When doing so the paint looks like it already has an lsp.. ha ha

[Mr Dream Machines]

You are right, it is better to finish with white, black, blue or red
In most cases I do