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02-27-2008, 11:00 AM
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| | | Re: Confused? Thanks for al the feedback, I understand everything you guyz are saying, and it was probably the case, but I have done this car before with the exact same combo, orange and Klasse AIO, but with an orange edge pad instead and my DA and had no marring what so ever, it finished perfect and actually at the time it was the only pad I could use to get the paint perfect, thats why I went with the same thing this time, is there a chance that the CCS orange pad is more aggressive than the edge? | 
03-01-2008, 10:11 AM
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| | | Re: Confused? One other thing - Klasse AIO is similar to Jeffs Werkstatt Prime
By rotary or even DA, it doesn't take long for the quite dry product to dry up and turn into little balls
Thus you have marring or hologramming | 
03-01-2008, 10:26 AM
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| | | Re: Confused? If you were using the edge pads before, I'm guessing you were using a PC and now you are using the flex polisher?
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03-01-2008, 05:35 PM
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| | | Re: Confused? AIO is not a true type polish..its a paint cleaner by chemical nature....has no mechanical abrasives...so what in turn happened is the orange pad being a cutting pad micro mared the paint....for AIO I would use a white CCS pad or a blue...white is a very light cut at most...and blue is no cut..these 2 are best used for a chemical cleaner...
I am not a big fan of the orange pads..I can use a green or white pad with different cut polishes and get same correction levels as a orange and be 95%-100% LSP ready....if correction level is more than what these pads can do I just switch over to a green wool pad...
the texture of the orange just seems a little more abrasive to me and most times leaves micro marring what ever I used....so I need to repolish with a lesser abrasive pad...thats more work
Al | 
03-01-2008, 06:06 PM
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| | | Re: Confused? I agree with Al has said, but I also feel the pad did not have enough polish on it and you dry polished the vehicle. I am sure you had the same buffer marks in the white car but did not notice them. | 
03-02-2008, 06:35 PM
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| | | Re: Confused? Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Dream Machines One other thing - Klasse AIO is similar to Jeffs Werkstatt Prime
By rotary or even DA, it doesn't take long for the quite dry product to dry up and turn into little balls
Thus you have marring or hologramming | Youknow I noticed that the polish was doing that, and now that you said that it make a whole lot of sense and was definitely the problem, I was out in the sun and it did start to dry up real quick, man can't believe I missed that one, thanks. | 
03-02-2008, 06:37 PM
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| | | Re: Confused? Quote:
Originally Posted by Al-53 AIO is not a true type polish..its a paint cleaner by chemical nature....has no mechanical abrasives...so what in turn happened is the orange pad being a cutting pad micro mared the paint....for AIO I would use a white CCS pad or a blue...white is a very light cut at most...and blue is no cut..these 2 are best used for a chemical cleaner...
I am not a big fan of the orange pads..I can use a green or white pad with different cut polishes and get same correction levels as a orange and be 95%-100% LSP ready....if correction level is more than what these pads can do I just switch over to a green wool pad...
the texture of the orange just seems a little more abrasive to me and most times leaves micro marring what ever I used....so I need to repolish with a lesser abrasive pad...thats more work
Al | Yet again I missed another basic detailing fact, I understand exactly what you mean with the pad, thanks man. I must have had brain malfunction that day. | 
03-04-2008, 12:24 PM
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| | | Re: Confused? I had decided to go with klasse AIO as my cleaner/wax for all my basic detail jobs, just to clean up the paint and give it a good seal, but do to the nature of klasse AIO should I go with another type of AIO to prevent this from happening again? | 
03-04-2008, 12:55 PM
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| | | Re: Confused? I use KAIO as a wipe on, wipe off cleaner after clay and/or wash; sometimes with a white 4" pad on a Polishing Pal, sometimes with a spray bottle and MF towel.
If you want an actual polish, I'd get another product, and then apply KAIO using the WOWO method.
Just my $.02...I'm sure the more experienced guys can elaborate more.
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