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08-06-2007, 07:23 PM
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| | | While the paint job is certainly high end, the wax he choses does make a difference. Thats from him , the owner, not us. Depth and wetness are more noticable as would be imperfections on great paint. Theres no flaws to hide a cheap wax one that might jet, might reduce the clarity, and even soften the images. | 
08-06-2007, 07:26 PM
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| | | killr- any idea of the brand of paint used and or process? | 
08-06-2007, 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by budman3 killr- any idea of the brand of paint used and or process? |
From Jim,
Yes, as I've stated on here before, my car was professionally repainted. The car was completely disassembled, sanded down, and painted with a show quality finish. It was finished out underneath and around every nook, crevice, and corner.
The flames were airbrushed on next and then everything was cleared over. In other words, it got the complete works.
Expensive to have done but defiantly stands out in a crowd when compared to a factory finish... ... 
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08-06-2007, 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by killrwheels@autogeek hide a cheap wax one that might jet, might reduce the clarity, and even soften the images. | Absolutely true, forgot about that. He would be better off with no wax. But wouldnt any carnauba wax reduce clarity in theory, because it leaves a translucent layer on the paint? Carnauba is not clear, therefore your paint would loose clarity....hummmmmm interesting. | 
08-06-2007, 07:51 PM
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| | | so by the same token that pink/blue/green colored sealant should have color transfer ?? Its removed when buffed off to a point where its indistinquishable to the eye. | 
08-06-2007, 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by killrwheels@autogeek so by the same token that pink/blue/green colored sealant should have color transfer ?? Its removed when buffed off to a point where its indistinquishable to the eye. | But in theory, arent you depositing a microscopic layer of translucent carnauba on the paint, which in theory, lowers clarity, I know that there is such a thin layer that you cant tell the diffrence, but in theory wouldnt it lower the surface clarity at the microscopic level?
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08-06-2007, 08:21 PM
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| | | I think you would need to guage the value of a painted surface like this, and not protecting it with a product. While a glaze alone would certainly offer the wetness Souveran is known for any loved, would no UV protection (thru carnauba or sealant) simply allow the surface to degrade quicker ??
Another product line "Z" has always offered 99% optical purity. I dunno, you would need some super fancy guage to measure the little difference from sealant to pure wax IMO. This is why Souveran has always offered the additional refining of #1 Yellow Grade Wax into Ivory to reduce any optical impurities. I will leave it up to you and someone with a guage to tell us the true difference. I will note with modern polymer technology, I have seen first hand sealants provide addtl crispness and reflection so in effect could it not enhance the finish also ?? | 
08-06-2007, 08:27 PM
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| | I've always been impressed by that vette. It's impeccable 
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08-06-2007, 09:33 PM
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| | | In reply to the posts about waxes possibly muting something from carnauba being translucent, I have some ideas of my own about this.
I have used a few expensive waxes, I've even had the privlage of using zymol vintage, and I must say the diffrence before and after waxing is very minimal, provided your prep is right.
If I was going to a car show, I would say prep the car as usual (making sure you finish with 106ff) and then use RMG with no wax.
Every wax i have ever used has not looked as good after I took it of than just bare RMG on perfectly prepped paint. Only problem with this is that RMG will not last more than a few days considering its basically oil that gives it that look.
Can i see the difference from one wax to another? Slightly, but its not very large. Can i see the diference from well prepped paint topped with RMG vs that same paint without it? Yes I can, I have done a blue tape test myself.
By the way the reason i say well prepped paint with RMG is because if your paint was not prepped right and ou used RMG it would hide swirls, but even if the paint is swirl free, RMG has a very noticeable wetting effect.
But dont get me wrong, what he is doing to that vette is obviously working very well as we can all see.
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08-06-2007, 09:45 PM
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