Pic says it all -- Pinnacle Souveran

[Thejoyofdriving]

Originally Posted by makdaddy626

Remember this one?

Best in class? says who? I've tested pinnacle products side by side and the tests I've done show that some of their products are nothing special, they dont suck, they just arent special. I think a lot of people will agree with me that a lot of pinnacle products are fluffed up.

yyaaaa, sssooooooo, I wasnt attacking any thing, I just said that some of pinnacles products are not the best. Thats not attacking them.

[makdaddy626]

"Best in class? says who? I've tested pinnacle products side by side..."

It's more about the implication that you've thouroughly tested the product line and reached a conclusion that others might rely on... To say, "I've tested pinnacle products..." and then in another post say you're planning on trying their two highest $$$ products only hurts your credibility on the board.

The same is true of listing yourself as a "professional detailer" - I get it, you get paid to detail cars so technically you want to call yourself a professional detailer, and that's ok with me... BUT, when I read your posts and find out that you don't meet MY standard of a "professional detailer" YOU lose credibility. Some of your advice isn't bad, some of it isn't great, but continuing to brag about how much you know and then having it come out that you're less experienced than you made it sound makes me want to disregard all of it. I'M NEW TO THIS LEVEL OF CAR CARE... I offer advice on the boards when my LIMITED experience allows. I'm sure you have more experience than me, you may even be better at detailing because of it. But you're self promoting and cocky attitude destroy your credibility with me and from what I've seen, others as well.

To the AGO moderators (and other forum members): Sorry for the off topic detour. I've said my piece and hope TJOD will take it as friendly advice and not a personal attack. I'll drop it now.

[Thejoyofdriving]

Originally Posted by makdaddy626

"Best in class? says who? I've tested pinnacle products side by side..."

It's more about the implication that you've thouroughly tested the product line and reached a conclusion that others might rely on... To say, "I've tested pinnacle products..." and then in another post say you're planning on trying their two highest $$$ products only hurts your credibility on the board.

The same is true of listing yourself as a "professional detailer" - I get it, you get paid to detail cars so technically you want to call yourself a professional detailer, and that's ok with me... BUT, when I read your posts and find out that you don't meet MY standard of a "professional detailer" YOU lose credibility. Some of your advice isn't bad, some of it isn't great, but continuing to brag about how much you know and then having it come out that you're less experienced than you made it sound makes me want to disregard all of it. I'M NEW TO THIS LEVEL OF CAR CARE... I offer advice on the boards when my LIMITED experience allows. I'm sure you have more experience than me, you may even be better at detailing because of it. But you're self promoting and cocky attitude destroy your credibility with me and from what I've seen, others as well.

To the AGO moderators (and other forum members): Sorry for the off topic detour. I've said my piece and hope TJOD will take it as friendly advice and not a personal attack. I'll drop it now.

No offense taken. When I say that I have "tested pinnacle products" I do not mean all of them. Ive so far tested: Leather cleaner and conditioner, leather and vinyl cleaner, wheel cleaner, clay lube, XMT1, Foam gun, Vinyl protectant, liquid souveran, paint cleansing lotion, and a number of other products that AG sells. Next time I will be sure to throw in the word "some", as to not make it sound like I have tested them all. That said, we are all typing, you cant hear the tone of my voice or facial expressions so it is very easy to missinturpret things that are siad. When i say for example "way to go" or "good job" that can be taken as a complement or a sarcastic remark, depending on the context of course, but still, something that sound one way in my head might sound diffrently in yours.

[killrwheels@autogeek]

Originally Posted by makdaddy626

To the AGO moderators (and other forum members): Sorry for the off topic detour. I've said my piece and hope TJOD will take it as friendly advice and not a personal attack. I'll drop it now.

thank you ---

[makdaddy626]

By the way, that has to be the best looking paint I've ever seen... thanks for posting it.

[killrwheels@autogeek]

[Thejoyofdriving]

Who ever painted that car is amazing. It has so much shine.

[supercharged]

Originally Posted by killrwheels@autogeek

I wonder if that result can be achived with goat's wax...I mean Griot's wax...

[joe.p]

Those are the mostwell done realistic flames i have seen to date..

A big Congrats to the painter

[Thejoyofdriving]

Originally Posted by supercharged

I wonder if that result can be achived with goat's wax...I mean Griot's wax...

probably...... it could also be achived with SSII, spray souveran, nattys red, 6$ megs wax, rain x car wax, turtle wax, or armor all wax, thats the paint job you see not the wax. I dont know why every one thinks that waxes make a big diffrence.