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Old 09-27-2007, 02:32 PM
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Do they still put the stickers on cars showing what percent of parts are made in the U S? Dont get me started on what we pay cops, firefighters, and teachers in this country. This whole country needs a gut check...
Nice try, but I'm not taking the bait...
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We already know, smart people rip their cars on track...so Gary would be.....?


Man thought I opened a can of worms with this thread lol, didn't think it would go this deep.
Surfer, I rip other people's cars on the track. How smart is that?
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Surfer, I rip other people's cars on the track. How smart is that?
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, besides we all know Surfer is the smartest

I was suprised to see the strike end that quick, really expected it to hold out.
yeah, considering you have been proudly edumicated by Scooterguitar on how to speak Engrish...
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your lack of knowledge on how the unions are run is exactly what i was talking about..i guess i'll put in qoutes for you again...

i told you once already Unions don't fire people

Unions don't make you strike..Members vote as to strike or not

If the Hall is a hiring hall and work is available..the hall will put you work as long as your in good standings and your dues are current..
Not the case Joe. I have EXTENSIVE knowledge. Being a member Joe ,you see one side. I hope you see both one day. I see both as I have to hire and work with union labor. Currently I am employing Local 3 in NYC.

1. I owned a Cadillac dealership for 25 years. I had to hire union mechanics.
2. I currently own a business in a union building in NYC. I have to use union labor for my renovations.
3. I was educated in labor relations to prevent the abuse of honest people.
4. I contract union electricians and carpenters to build out data centers for banks globally.

You can jump shop to shop when you are a card carrying member in good standing. But what does that mean?

The sales guy from Shop A didn't get the bid.
All of the union members currently employed by shop A are out of work.
The sales guy from Shop B got the bid.
All of the benched guys form shop A (hopefully) go to work for Shop B at the new account.

Unions dont fire people, literally, because the people are a profit center for the union.

Unions dont make you strike. Your demands make you strike. Why, I dont know. I couldnt imagine walking off of my job and standing in front yelling as a method of getting my job back at a higher rate. Time to revise the striking method. I have caused "The Rat" to be blown up on several occasions for RIDICULOUS reasons. Most recently for using non-union movers in a union building. Ill let them blow that thing up on my front lawn if it saves money.

Remember Joe, this is a debate, dont get angry.

In Chicago you may have a different experience.
In NYC when a Local 3 member is sitting in his Lexus RX400, sipping Starbucks , with flyers on his windshield stating why he is striking, it loses its effect. This is what we see on Wall St, dont be fooled. These gents are earning $150k w/ OT.
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