Wax Test Report (46 waxes tested)

[Thejoyofdriving]

Originally Posted by trhland

what about pinnicle souveran

its in there, i dont know what they gave it though.

[killrwheels@autogeek]

this report is currently more than 5 years old. Over time even the original testers agreed they did some things wrong. While a good read and a basis it would not be as clinical as most hoped.

1. Grading based upon ease of purchase -- come on think internet/credit card
2. Test panels were similar but pulled from many different areas -- think about environmental issues like Acid Rain and how much damage or further oxidation it could have mustered against panels from different regions.
3. They prepped all panels the same way -- durability and adherance to finish can be based upon compatible versus incompatible products.
4. They didnt even read the directions --took two shots to use Zaino correctly.

After all that is said ... consider the differences in products (enhancements) and polymer technology that wasnt as defined back then. Even VOC reg's took alot away. Its a much different ball game now. I still have my copy and love to relook at it.

[Larry A]

Other then Consumer Reports Wax Tests this was the biggest wax test. I dont think anybody else has done a wax test on that many products since. Even Bud Abrahams test was like 28 waxes, and a lot of people think that it was also flawed. I dont see anybody else taking the time and money to do anymore tests. All these tests are just opinions anyhow.

[killrwheels@autogeek]

Originally Posted by Larry A

Other then Consumer Reports Wax Tests this was the biggest wax test. I dont think anybody else has done a wax test on that many products since. Even Bud Abrahams test was like 28 waxes, and a lot of people think that it was also flawed. I dont see anybody else taking the time and money to do anymore tests. All these tests are just opinions anyhow.

I agree that Steve and Guru Reports were to be commended on testing specialty (boutique) products which has never been done, and even the recent Consumer Reports failed to see anything more than low grade mass produced price point products.

[supercharged]

yeah, yeah, yeah. Tests they perform they always have Armor All, or Black Magic, or Turtle Wax winning all the time. Maybe it works for them, but not for me. I'd rather psnd a little extra buck and get good stuff from AG.

[FMINUS]

wow pinnacle paste glaz and souveran both were beaten by P21S.

I have P21s and Souveran and can attest that Pinnacle is better than P21S in EVERY WAY (P21s is one of the ONLY waxes out there that sucks more in durability than Souveran)

[wytstang]

Originally Posted by FMINUS

wow pinnacle paste glaz and souveran both were beaten by P21S.

I have P21s and Souveran and can attest that Pinnacle is better than P21S in EVERY WAY (P21s is one of the ONLY waxes out there that sucks more in durability than Souveran)

That right there should set of the alarms.

[joe.p]

Originally Posted by FMINUS

wow pinnacle paste glaz and souveran both were beaten by P21S.

I have P21s and Souveran and can attest that Pinnacle is better than P21S in EVERY WAY (P21s is one of the ONLY waxes out there that sucks more in durability than Souveran)

yeah..but i find all three to be major dust magnets...any wax with high in oil content..not just the ones you list in general

[Thejoyofdriving]

I think there should be more tests like this one done, but with little variables, you know have all the waxes applied to the exact same types of pannles, and all kept in the same condition. To bad these kinds of things cost oodles of money. And they take alot of time. Plus you have to make sure the reviews arent bias.

[supercharged]

Originally Posted by FMINUS

wow pinnacle paste glaz and souveran both were beaten by P21S.

I have P21s and Souveran and can attest that Pinnacle is better than P21S in EVERY WAY (P21s is one of the ONLY waxes out there that sucks more in durability than Souveran)

P21S has a lot of beeswax, which beads water like crazy, but gives no protection to the paint.