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10-05-2012, 11:44 AM
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#11 | | Director of Training
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| Re: Pro Detailer Wanted in San Diego - 1968 Biscayne
Here watch this... Motorhead Garage - Machine Polishing with Pinnacle - Episode 7
On Sunday, February 13th, at 11:30am Eastern Time, and on Monday, February 14th, at 4:30pm Eastern Time, a brand new how-to segment will air with with myself, Dave Bowman and Sam Memmolo on the Fox Sports Network. Removing Swirls and Oxidation By Machine
And watch this... Show Car Garage Video: How detailing clay works and how to use detailing clay to remove above surface bonded contaminants Copyright ©PBMA - AutogeekOnline.net® All Rights Reserved Part 1 - How To Use Detailing Clay Part 2 - How To Use Detailing Clay
Then watch this and substitute the M205 for the Wolfgang Total Swirl Remover
Than after 30 days have passed, apply a wax, sealant or coatings...  | 
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10-10-2012, 09:35 AM
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#12 | | Senior Member
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| Re: Pro Detailer Wanted in San Diego - 1968 Biscayne
Did anyone ever locate an Autogeekian-level detailer in San Diego?
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10-10-2012, 09:45 AM
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#13 | | Director of Training
Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Stuart, Florida
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| Re: Pro Detailer Wanted in San Diego - 1968 Biscayne
Not yet...
I texted Alonzo this morning, he's going to get some clay and clay the paint to remove the overspray.
He also told me he' chosen not to take the car back to the painter. He thinks the painter knows how to paint but they lack the knowledge or ability to do quality polishing work. (that's the norm for body shops sad to say).
I talked to him on the phone, he's open to purchasing a polisher and the pads and products to do the job himself. I've gotten to know him enough to know he's a true "Car Guy", he has at least two classic cars, his 1966 Biscayne and also a 1970 Oldsmobile Cutlass, but customized and sporting custom paint jobs.
I told him for what it will cost him to hire a pro to do the work for him he can invest in the tools to do it himself and then always have to tools for doing maintenance and repair work on his rides into the future.
He's sent me pictures of both cars and all I can say is "wow" they are nice but he's asked me not to share them on the forum.
It would be cool to find a forum member that would be willing to show him some of the basics of machine polishing and avoid the common mistakes like I list here, DA Polisher Trouble Shooting Guide
At the same time I'm confident with the videos on our YouTube Channel and the help of this forum he can figure it out for himself.
The Saturday and Thursday classes at Meguiar's in Irvine are also an option since he's within driving distance. I'm confident my former co-worker Mike Stoops can show him everything he needs to know. | |
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10-10-2012, 10:11 AM
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#14 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Limerick, PA
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| Re: Pro Detailer Wanted in San Diego - 1968 Biscayne
Can someone explain to me how these cars get overspray on them?? Isnt all "painting" being done in a paint booth in a body shop? How is the overspray getting on "completed" cars ??? Are the just spraying them down with Krylon?
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10-10-2012, 10:28 AM
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#15 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Las Vegas/Nellis AFB
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| Re: Pro Detailer Wanted in San Diego - 1968 Biscayne
Sometimes in the body shop world if a car comes in for say a small area to be fixed and needing a small area painted a lot of times the car will be fixed in the prep bays and shot with paint right where it sits in the prep stall. It can become to much of a hassle to move that vehicle and others around it just to put the vehicle in the paint booth for something so small to be painted.
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10-10-2012, 12:25 PM
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#16 | | Director of Training
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| Re: Pro Detailer Wanted in San Diego - 1968 Biscayne
The exterior panels have overspray on them because they shot the door jambs after painting the car. Supposedly a drop cloth was used to cover the car but Alonzo says their's overspray on the glass too...
My guess is there's overspray on anything that wasn't covered, wheels, (that's what wheel maskers can be used for), paint, glass, etc.
It's all good because with the help of AGO it's going to look good at the end of the day...  | |
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10-10-2012, 11:15 PM
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#17 | | Member
Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: San Diego, CA
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| Re: Pro Detailer Wanted in San Diego - 1968 Biscayne
Hi Mike,
I apologize for not getting back to you and Alonzo earlier. I recently opened a new shop in downtown San Diego and that has been taking over all of my time.
However, I 100% agree with you regarding the pad/polish combo and then process being much more important than the tool being used. I am working on uploading some photos to create some before and after posts to show some of the work I have done in the past. I have a client with an extremely swirled black Range Rover that was absolutely destroyed by her previous detailer who used a brush on her car for weekly washes. I'll be sure to take a lot of good photos of that process and will create a separate post.
In the meantime, I also agree with you that if Alonzo is a "car" guy and wants to learn and has the patience and time, then he is just as well served buying the appropriate tools and doing the work himself, preferably supervised the first few times. I would love to offer that to him. I would welcome him to bring his car into my shop and I can help guide him through claying the car and correcting the buffer marks from the paint shop through a least aggressive polishing process. I can help show him how to check for proper correction through an IPA wipe down and Brinkmann light.
Obviously, I would love to do the work myself as well, but more than happy to help teach if that's the route he would like to take.
As for our shop, we currently use M205, Wolfgang TSR, Correct-It and a few other products by Boehm, as well as several "local" brands out here in California that we have had great success with.
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10-10-2012, 11:32 PM
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#18 | | Member
Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: San Diego, CA
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| Re: Pro Detailer Wanted in San Diego - 1968 Biscayne
Here are some pics of a recent G35 that had some major swirls and RIDS. On this car, I used a Cyclo with the green polishing pads and Correct-It Polish & Glaze. A few of the quarter panels required some more aggressive compounding. For most of these I switched to M105 and the green polishing pads (spot checking on correction with IPA wipedown) and finished the entire car off with Correct-It Final Polish with the white ultra-soft pads. The pics do not do it any justice. My client said the car looked better than when he first bought it and immediately referred a co-worker to me the next day.
I will try to get some full write-ups on the site, but wanted to give you something as quickly as possible to show Alonzo.
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10-11-2012, 08:36 AM
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#19 | | Director of Training
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| Re: Pro Detailer Wanted in San Diego - 1968 Biscayne
[quote=Socalautodetail;749702]
In the meantime, I also agree with you that if Alonzo is a "car" guy and wants to learn and has the patience and time, then he is just as well served buying the appropriate tools and doing the work himself, preferably supervised the first few times. I would love to offer that to him. I would welcome him to bring his car into my shop and I can help guide him through claying the car and correcting the buffer marks from the paint shop through a least aggressive polishing process. I can help show him how to check for proper correction through an IPA wipe down and Brinkmann light.
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I will send Alonzo and e-mail today to let him know of your offer.
Talked to him yesterday and sounds like he still has work to do... remember the glass and chrome on this car and probably the wheels are all going to have overspray. Quote:
Originally Posted by Socalautodetail 
Obviously, I would love to do the work myself as well, but more than happy to help teach if that's the route he would like to take.
| I'm in the same boat, I tend to want the job when it's a really cool car like this because it's a cool car. At the same time I've shared with thousands of people how to do it right themselves and good things always come back my way. Quote:
Originally Posted by Socalautodetail
As for our shop, we currently use M205, Wolfgang TSR, Correct-It and a few other products by Boehm, as well as several "local" brands out here in California that we have had great success with.
| I trust M205 and Wolfgang TSR, haven't heard of the other two products but if they can finish down and make black paint look good that's all that's important. | |
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10-11-2012, 08:41 AM
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#20 | | Director of Training
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| Re: Pro Detailer Wanted in San Diego - 1968 Biscayne
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Originally Posted by Socalautodetail
Here are some pics of a recent G35 that had some major swirls and RIDS.
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Pictures look great! Here's a tip, learn how to upload pictures into a gallery and then learn how to insert them instead of attaching them to a thread. You will get more people to see your pictures this way because they won't have to click on a thumbnail. Also, non-members of our forum cannot see the pictures. That means Lurkers cannot see your hard work and professional work.
I upload hundreds of pictures and insert them into my threads, it's not that hard to to and I taught myself. I also have a number of articles, note the one on Photobucket and keep in mind as a member you get your own gallery here and you can use the pictures anywhere, pretty good deal actually. Photography and Working with Pictures on the Internet NEW - How to create dedicated albums in your photo gallery... If you're going to be a "Forum Person" on ANY forum, help yourself by learning how to work with picture on the Internet How to resize your photos before uploading to a photo gallery - Using Easy Thumbnails Handiest little picture viewer tool I've been using for years now... How to upload a photo into your Autogeek Photo Gallery How to insert an image from your photo gallery into your message How-To capture swirls, scratches, etchings and other surface defects with your camera How-to work with pictures on discussion forums How to crop out the fluff and resize your pictures! - Using FREE online software! Photobucket and Missing Pictures Quote:
Originally Posted by Socalautodetail
I will try to get some full write-ups on the site, but wanted to give you something as quickly as possible to show Alonzo.
| Good write-ups show you can walk the talk and build your credibility, especially when you're new to a forum.
Thanks for chiming back in on this thread... keep in mind that Alonzo will have buddies with cool cars, good customer/friend to have and earn his trust. | |
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