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    Re: How to test waterless products do not scratch paint?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hantra View Post
    Do you need a control? Like, maybe wash half the panel with waterless, and half traditional, or rinseless? Because we're not just looking to see if it scratches. We want to see if it scratches more or less than ____.

    I would carefully measure out your product, so you're using the same amount each time. I don't think this should be a one time test. It could go for a while, if you're up to it.

    And lastly, I would try and rig up some kind of jig to pull across the panel, so that you're applying the exact same amount of pressure with each pass. Like maybe put a bit of weight on a block of wood, and put your folded microfiber under it, and pull it across the panel, instead of applying your traditional varying pressure.

    None of these are absolutely necessary, but if you're looking to do some science, might as well try and mitigate any variances in the system, IMO. Regardless, I'm looking forward to seeing the results.
    Hantra, yes, I am trying to experiment to compare waterless washing to other methods. I may even go the extent to purchase and panel with dark paint, hopefully black, and use that as a test method. I like the idea of keeping the wiping procedure consistent and will consider your suggestion. Thanks for the advice!

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    Re: How to test waterless products do not scratch paint?

    Quote Originally Posted by FUNX650 View Post
    •If it's "technique" you're looking for, then:
    -I'll suggest to follow AGO forum member
    Marc's directions on:
    "How-To Do A Waterless Car Wash"; per:




    •The MSWWM can be found in the following thread:
    Review & How-To: Ultima Waterless Wash Plus

    Note, and IMO:
    •The brand of the Waterless Wash in this How-To
    of Marc's can be substituted with others of equal
    stated characteristics.

    -After all, isn't it the technique/tools, not the
    cleaning fluid itself, that may most likely be
    the paint-blemish-inducing culprits?
    -Just a thought.




    Bob
    Thank you Bob I will check the link.

    I agree the procedure is a large contributor to surface defects when cleaning. I would like to put the uncertainty to rest and test if the solutions actually 'lower surface tension' between grit/dirt and the surface it's on. I understand time and thermal conditions could play a factor.

    Maybe I am question the topic too much but regardless, I appreciate the info!

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    Re: How to test waterless products do not scratch paint?

    why bother buying an entire panel to test, do a small area on your car and if it causes damage(which is highly unlikely) just polish it out. If it does damage a mild polish would remove any marring cause by it!

    Also, and just an opinion, but no matter what you do, your rides is going to get scratches, have fun with the hobby and try not to go down the rabbit hole of buying test panels just to test marring most people will tell you they won't experience with waterless and rinseless Enjoy!
    Back to the full-time grind.

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