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Old 07-09-2007, 10:41 AM
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Help: Should I get a PC or the UDM

All the research I have done has led me to believe that unless you are just a bull in china shop paint damage with a PC is very tough, with that said I was going to purchase a PC in the near future.

With the advent of the UDM and subsequent great reviews I am starting to lean towards the UDM.

I have read that paint correction with the UDM is much easier and less time consuming than the PC. Considering correction is easier/quicker than the PC I would assume so is paint damage?

MY QUESTION: How much easier would it be to damage the paint when compared to a PC, how much harder would it be to damage paint when compared to a rotary?

All help is appreciated!

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Old 07-09-2007, 11:35 AM
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Having used the PC on a swirl removal this weekend I have to say that I'm not seeing the difference in results between this and the PC. The UDM still has some modifications that need to be made before it is a machine that I would say is superior to the PC for most jobs. The power switch needs to be modified to be a little safer. It is tricky to turn off and way too easy to turn on. I've had it activate just by setting it down wrong. David is working on a fix for that problem though.

Unless you are dealing with damage that really tests the limits of the PC, then you aren't going to see the power of the UDM demonstrated. The swirls that I polished out wouldn't have taken any longer to polish with the PC. It isn't a huge difference in speed if there is any.

If David's fix for the power switch isn't going to involve replacing the whole housing then I'd say that you should get the UDM. It is the exact same thing as the PC but with a bigger motor. The comparison to a rotary doesn't seem to make much sense. It has the exact same guts as the PC and is just as safe as the PC. From what I understand there is more power per setting, but it isn't like the machine is more dangerous. You just don't need to set it to 6 as often to remove swirls and paint damage. But as far as creating rotary style damage, I just don't think that is possible. It still isn't spinning nearly as fast as a rotary. It is also still a random orbital polisher, unlike the rotary. And it isn't using wool pads, which really create damage. So it is still much much safer than the rotary.

Long story short.... Get the UDM and keep an eye out for modifications and updates from David. I wouldn't suggest you turn in your PC for a UDM just yet, but if you have to choose between the two then I can see the UDM being a much better choice in the long run.
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Old 07-09-2007, 03:14 PM
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Old 07-09-2007, 11:24 PM
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OCD great info, thanks

So using the udm is just as safe (remember 1st machine) for the paint as the PC huh?? Well, I'll be getting a UDM....

I'm not extremly worried, I try to be very cautious with my work.

Thanks to all who provided input!!
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Despite my recent equipment failure, i would reccomend the UDM. It is a lot more powerful and with both, it will be very hard to burn the paint due to the random part of the orbit.

Just go with the least abrasive solution first (IMHO, if the swirls are kind of medium use Menz nano with an orange pad, then move to something like XMT 360 and a white pad to finish it up).
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Despite my recent equipment failure, i would reccomend the UDM. It is a lot more powerful and with both, it will be very hard to burn the paint due to the random part of the orbit.

Just go with the least abrasive solution first (IMHO, if the swirls are kind of medium use Menz nano with an orange pad, then move to something like XMT 360 and a white pad to finish it up).
What failed on your udm?

I was also going to get the PC as my first machine, but decided to go UDM. I've been waiting for what seems like weeks for it to come, but wednesday will be the big day.
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What failed on your udm?

I was also going to get the PC as my first machine, but decided to go UDM. I've been waiting for what seems like weeks for it to come, but wednesday will be the big day.
His power switch popped off.
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I tried my UDM a couple hours ago (will post review tomorrow) and I will tell you I was amazed! UDM rocks! Less vibrations, but you can feel a stronger motor.
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