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04-30-2008, 07:52 AM
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| | | Klasse SG Well i guess i should have done some reading before my first time with the product. Yes my arms are sore. I applied the Klasse SG to the whole truck then went back to take it off. Did alot of wiping. The only way I could get rid of the streaking was to spritz with soft water and rewipe. Will this affect the durability of the product? The Klasse SG was on the truck for about 15 minutes to a half hour before wiping off. i have not waxed yet, waiting for it to cure. | 
04-30-2008, 08:04 AM
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| | | Re: Klasse SG I've wondered that myself... With all of the suggestions to make KSG easier to use, spritz with water, WOWO, etc., you have to wonder what effect there is on durability and protection.
Ok, so that wasn't an answer at all, sorry.  | 
04-30-2008, 10:38 AM
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| | | Re: Klasse SG When I was learning to use it the recommendation was to wait 12 hours before removing. I still had to spritz an MF to remove it but it did seem a little easier.
I put three coats on my truck and never used it again. | 
04-30-2008, 10:38 AM
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| | | Re: Klasse SG I transferred KSG to a small 4oz. spray bottle and used the WOWO method. I got a lot of durability out of it. From what I've read, a general rule is not to expose the sealant to water until it's had time to cure; a QD might have been a better method of eliminating the streaking. Also, if it streaked, you used way too much. A very little KSG goes a long way.
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04-30-2008, 12:59 PM
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| | | Re: Klasse SG Agree with MadOzodi
Notes:
1.Product can be applied by hand (WOWO) or machine (Cyclo Polisher or a Porter-Cable random orbital buffer) best (very thin) results are obtained with machine application
2.Klasse SG can be diluted (3:1 SG / distilled water (makes for easier residue removal)
3.Ease of product removal is inversely proportional to the amount used
4.If there are stubborn spots (usually because too much SG was used, fill a spray bottle with a 4:1 solution of distilled water / SG and lightly spray the panel and buff. After you're done, keep the bottle around and use as a QD.
5.Sonus Acrylic spritz (Autopia.org) a perfect compliment to the AIO /KSG system - it’s a QD for acrylic sealants
6.A 3:1 solution of Distilled water Klasse SG, use this immediately following (conventional) wash as a wipe on/wipe off. It serves as a rejuvenator and the application is very quick like a QD.
7.Klasse is an acrylic resin coating, it's not a petroleum silicate, or water-based product, and acrylic’s when they cross-link form a hard shell. Petroleum distillates will remove polymer sealants but not acrylic so a Carnauba wax can be applied to produce a deep ‘jetting’ (the so called ‘wet-look’)
8.An ideal last step product (LSP) for metallic paint is Pinnacle Signature Series Carnauba / Polymer wax
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04-30-2008, 02:08 PM
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| | | Re: Klasse SG Quote:
Originally Posted by TOGWT Agree with MadOzodi
Notes:
1.Product can be applied by hand (WOWO) or machine (Cyclo Polisher or a Porter-Cable random orbital buffer) best (very thin) results are obtained with machine application
2.Klasse SG can be diluted (3:1 SG / distilled water (makes for easier residue removal)
3.Ease of product removal is inversely proportional to the amount used
4.If there are stubborn spots (usually because too much SG was used, fill a spray bottle with a 4:1 solution of distilled water / SG and lightly spray the panel and buff. After you're done, keep the bottle around and use as a QD.
5.Sonus Acrylic spritz (Autopia.org) a perfect compliment to the AIO /KSG system - it’s a QD for acrylic sealants
6.A 3:1 solution of Distilled water Klasse SG, use this immediately following (conventional) wash as a wipe on/wipe off. It serves as a rejuvenator and the application is very quick like a QD. 7.Klasse is an acrylic resin coating, it's not a petroleum silicate, or water-based product, and acrylic’s when they cross-link form a hard shell. Petroleum distillates will remove polymer sealants but not acrylic so a Carnauba wax can be applied to produce a deep ‘jetting’ (the so called ‘wet-look’)
8.An ideal last step product (LSP) for metallic paint is Pinnacle Signature Series Carnauba / Polymer wax | I've read this (bolded) before and am wondering, with so many of us topping every sealant on the market with a wax, are we all just removing the sealants??? Even if fully cured (cross linked)? | 
04-30-2008, 02:10 PM
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| | | Re: Klasse SG trust me i didn't use that much. i used less than 1.5oz for the whole truck. maybe streaking was the wrong word. ok looking at the truck straight on it looked like i got it all wiped off. when i looked at the truck at an angle with a 500watt work light you could see where some didn't wipe completely off. so next time i'll put it in a spray bottle, wowo right away and if i get a spot thats being stubborn use a QD to help with it. thanks for the tips, much appreciated | 
04-30-2008, 02:23 PM
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| | | Re: Klasse SG btw i tried a pc first to apply. i'm fairly sure this way would have been a mistake. i tried a red wax pad then gray and all it did was streak big time. so i applied it by hand. | 
04-30-2008, 03:18 PM
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| | | Re: Klasse SG KSG is a PITA IMHO, but when you use it on top of KAIO, the combo has some serious durability. I ONR'd my car in the middle of the winter and after a cold rain, it was still beading very nicely.
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04-30-2008, 06:10 PM
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| | | Re: Klasse SG A couple hints ... first use the KSG in a spray bottle (small travel size and one spritz per panel) WOWO method for removal. If you get a tuff spot or miss some, respray and immediately wipe off and it takes it off. Should allow 4-10 hours for it to cure without introduction to water for maximum durability. |  | | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode |
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