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06-20-2009, 09:07 PM
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#11 | | Senior Member
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| Re: porta cable or flex for a nube Quote:
Originally Posted by Rsurfer IMO, if you have only 2 cars to maintain and they are in decent shape, why buy an expensive machine that you will be using once or twice a year if that. Sure it will take you longer in the beginning to get the marring out, but once removed and with proper washing and drying techniques your paint will only need minor correction ie. a mild polish occasionally. You don't need a flex for that. On the other hand, if you are maintaining several cars or planning on doing this as a part-time job, then yes, get a Flex. | I, too, only have two cars to maintain and one of the two is a garage queen (as in 1,400 miles in 8.5 months!). I found myself using the Flex more than twice a year on each as the Flex is really good to apply my sealant and to buffer off the Fuzion wax.
I will do a correction once a year and polish three times a year when I seal my car (with a double coat winter seal). I wax about every five to six weeks whether it needs it or not.
I first used the PC in woodworking 20 years ago and the vibration would cause me problems. Today I have arthritis in my hands, which is NOTaffeccted by the Flex, so the choice of a Flex was the right one for me. Your mileage may vary.
Given the minor difference in cost I'm glad I purchased the Flex.
Regards,
GEWB
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06-20-2009, 09:30 PM
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#12 | | Member
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 30
| Re: porta cable or flex for a nube
One thing to consider is what brand and size pads you want to use. For instance if you want to use smaller than a 6.5 in. lake country ccs smart pad I don't think you can. Safely for the paint anyway. I think the only way to use smaller than a 6.5 in. pad is to buy the edge backing plate for it but then you have to use edge pads with it. Just one thing to consider.
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06-20-2009, 09:50 PM
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#13 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 3,238
| Re: porta cable or flex for a nube Quote:
Originally Posted by gewb I, too, only have two cars to maintain and one of the two is a garage queen (as in 1,400 miles in 8.5 months!). I found myself using the Flex more than twice a year on each as the Flex is really good to apply my sealant and to buffer off the Fuzion wax.
I will do a correction once a year and polish three times a year when I seal my car (with a double coat winter seal). I wax about every five to six weeks whether it needs it or not.
I first used the PC in woodworking 20 years ago and the vibration would cause me problems. Today I have arthritis in my hands, which is NOTaffeccted by the Flex, so the choice of a Flex was the right one for me. Your mileage may vary.
Given the minor difference in cost I'm glad I purchased the Flex.
Regards, GEWB | The Flex suites you well, but for others it may not justify the cost. 2.5 times the cost is not a minor difference for some. A survey was taken recently on applying waxes and removal. More than 80% of Auto Geek's perferred to apply and remove by hand. I realize that it's easier for you by machine, but your the minority.
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06-20-2009, 10:03 PM
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#14 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2007
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| Re: porta cable or flex for a nube
Seeing that you have two high end cars to maintain, cost is probably not a factor in your decision to buy either a PC or a Flex. You also said you would rather buy a superior machine now then have regrets later and with those words in mind, you have answered your oun question. The Flex is the way to go for you. As with any new tool that you are not totally comfortable with, take your time and read about it, get a feel for it and don't start out using it in speed 5 or 6. You'll be happy with the purchase. Good luck.
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06-21-2009, 05:39 AM
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#15 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 402
| Re: porta cable or flex for a nube
My thanks to everyone for all of your help. It seems that the flex is probably a bit more machine than I actualy need right now as my cars are new. But I guess I rather have it and not need it as opposed to need it and not have it.
Any thoughts on whether to use Fuzion or Souveran paste wax over wdgps3.o. My cars are black and black navy blue. Which wax would you use as a final layer over the wdgps?
Thanks again to everyone
Unclestu
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06-21-2009, 05:40 AM
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#16 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 402
| Re: porta cable or flex for a nube
sorry about the typo. it should read black and navy blue.
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06-21-2009, 12:43 PM
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#17 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 316
| Re: porta cable or flex for a nube Quote:
Originally Posted by unclestu My thanks to everyone for all of your help. It seems that the flex is probably a bit more machine than I actualy need right now as my cars are new. But I guess I rather have it and not need it as opposed to need it and not have it.
Any thoughts on whether to use Fuzion or Souveran paste wax over wdgps3.o. My cars are black and black navy blue. Which wax would you use as a final layer over the wdgps?
Thanks again to everyone
Unclestu | I would use the Fuzion. It has anti-static properties so the dust won't settle on the cars as much, so they will look cleaner, and thus better, longer. Fuzion also lasts 2-3 months, whereas Souveran only lasts 2-3 weeks. Souveran would make the paint look richer and deeper, yes, and if you are willing to reapply it frequently, and keep the dust off of it on a regular basis, then Souveran might be your choice.
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06-21-2009, 06:54 PM
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#18 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Harlingen, TX
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| Re: porta cable or flex for a nube FLEX!!!!!!!! Quote:
Originally Posted by unclestu Hi,
I am a nube to auto detailing and never used a buffer before. I want to do purchase a buufer and am not sure which machine will be the right choice for me. I will be useing it on a 2009 black 911 and 2009 navy blue escalade. Which buffer would you recommend the flex 3401 or the porta cable 7424xl?
Thanks,
Unclestu | |
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06-25-2009, 08:28 AM
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#19 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 118
| Re: porta cable or flex for a nube
I've got both the PC and the FLEX along with a rotary. Based on ease of use, cost vs. quality and speed I would go with the FLEX if I had to pick just one machine. Far superior to the PC in every catagory with the exception of limited pad size. FLEX and the Kompressor pads is the way to go IMHO.
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06-29-2009, 08:32 PM
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#20 | | Senior Member
Join Date: May 2009 Location: Saugus.MA
Posts: 169
| Re: porta cable or flex for a nube
Go With the Flex I had both machines Flex is far superior. If You unsure about how to Go to bodyshop or Junk yard get junk fender or hood And practice. Better mess up on junk then one those rides.Just rember Hold onto flex on vertical parts the forced rotation can pull out of your hand if your dont have a good grip. With the right pads and polish/cleaners you should'nt have any problem. Remember Wash,Clay,Polish&Protect. Clay the car even if there right of the lot you'll be amazed at what on your car&truck
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