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05-27-2006, 08:10 PM
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| | | First Deatail with PC Wow am I Happy
 Hi all I got my Edge 2000 Porter Cabel complete Kit HD yesterday. My wife thought I was crazy until I detailed her 2000 VW Bug. Boy is she happy and so am I with the results. The photos don't do the car any justice and it was an overcast day so you really can't see the great shine. Plus it is a very light blue in color. I can't wait to detail my New Black Azera when it arrives, going on 13 weeks now.This is the best investment I have made in a long time. Products and Process used thanks to all of you here. Wash Clay Vanilla Moose with PC Orange Pad Clearkote Wax White Pad Clearkote Quick Shine Detailed Wheels End of Story!
I love this forum and without the help and advise from you all I don't think I would have gotten these results.
Thanks to All,
JoeD
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05-27-2006, 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by JoeD Hi all I got my Edge 2000 Porter Cabel complete Kit HD yesterday. My wife thought I was crazy until I detailed her 2000 VW Bug. Boy is she happy and so am I with the results. The photos don't do the car any justice and it was an overcast day so you really can't see the great shine. Plus is a very light blue in color. I can't wait to detail my New Black Azera when it arrives, going on 13 weeks now.This is the best investment I have made in a long time. Products and Process used thanks to all of you here. Wash Clay Vanilla Moose with PC Orange Pad Clearkote Wax White Pad Clearkote Quick Shine Detailed Wheels End of Story!
I love this forum and without the help and advise from you all I don't think I would have gotten these results.
Thanks to All,
JoeD | Hey Joe... how are you.
I'm a little confused at your process,
Did you use Vanilla Moose finishing glaze with an orange pad? And the wax, was put on with a white pad?
Normally the orange pad is reserved for compouding and polishes, it's slightly too abrasive too properly apply finishing glaze... Applying the wax with a white pad is also slightly abrasive, and would result in you removing the glaze you just put down.
You'd normally apply Wax with a grey or blue finishing pad. Just something to keep in mind.
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05-27-2006, 08:45 PM
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| | | Well as you can see I am still learning. I used the Orange Pad to remove some heavy scratches and blemishes. It seemed to work. Maybe I could have used a more aggressive cleaner. I checked the color code on the pads and the White, as stated, is for applying Polishes and Finish Waxes.
White Ultrafine Polishing Pad This ultra-smooth polishing pad contains 80 pores per inch, allowing for fine polishing which creates a bold, crystalline gloss Use this pad to apply waxes, polishes and sealants. Safe on clear coats. 80 pores per inch (ppi) JoeD
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05-27-2006, 08:57 PM
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| | | Orange Pad --- Cutting Pad ---Best used with polishes/compounds
White Pad --- Polishing Pad ---Best used with polishes and finishing polishes
Grey/Blue --- Finishing Pad --- Best used with finishing polishes and waxes
doesnt mean you can use them in different combos, but I usually reserve wax and sealant application and removal via hand. |
05-27-2006, 09:33 PM
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| | | Hi Killrwheels, thank you for the reply. Excuse my ignorance but I did not receive a Gray Pad with my order. According to the descriptions of the pads, it states that the white pad has 80 ppi verses 70 ppi on the blue pad.
Blue Finishing Pad This pad is great for everyday use. It will leave surface areas scratch-free and smooth while still removing light swirls and imperfections. Use with wax and polish to apply a fine gloss. Safe on clear coats. 70 pores per inch (ppi)
So wouldn't the white be a finer pad for finishing if it contains more ppi? I do plan on applying the finishing wax by hand next time. Thanks again for the reply. I am loving this learning process. JoeD
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05-27-2006, 10:42 PM
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| | | I suspect the density of the foam has more to do with it than just PPI, but I would have to discuss with Lake Country. It does appear in their description that white pads can be used for sealants. |
05-28-2006, 08:58 AM
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| | | Also the white pad that I have seems to be much softer than the blue pad. JoeD |
05-28-2006, 10:13 AM
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| | | How difficult was it to use the Portal Cable? I've never used one and I'm scared to try because a) $250 & b) I might screw up and damage the car. On the other hand I'm interested to learn as I have swirls and scratches that I have been unable to remove.
I have only tried using Meguires Scratch X on spots and I saw no difference. Can one be successful using other products by hand or does it require a polisher?
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05-28-2006, 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Reddwarf How difficult was it to use the Portal Cable? I've never used one and I'm scared to try because a) $250 & b) I might screw up and damage the car. On the other hand I'm interested to learn as I have swirls and scratches that I have been unable to remove.
I have only tried using Meguires Scratch X on spots and I saw no difference. Can one be successful using other products by hand or does it require a polisher? |
A good kit (Poorboys) comes with pads, products, and a machine for 250.00 which is a bargain. As long as you dont throw the PC at the car, you run very, very, very little risk of damage. It will also take a lot of work to remove swirls, but works well as reducing them and making them alot less noticable. Once you get one, you will kick yourself for not doing so sooner. The learning curve is very easy ....
If dont prefer to go that route, then look into paint cleaners (Pinnacle, P21S) or Clearkotes Vanilla Moose. They will hide or temporarily fill the swirls in order to make them less noticable. Just remember you'll likely need to followup with a carnuaba based protectant .  |
05-28-2006, 10:58 AM
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| | | As a novice I found the PC to be very easy to use. After awhile you get the hang of it. Just remember to let the PC do the work and don't press down on the unit . It will only cause the PC to bog down. You will not harm the paint. I know I am only a beginner but I can see my self improving as time goes by and with the great help and tips from the members of this forum you can't go wrong. Read the how too's, instructions and tips on the main page and you will find them very helpful. Don't hesitate, purchase the PC. It will make your car shine, shine, shine. Provided you use the correct products. Feel free to ask the questions and I know the Senior Members of this Great Forum will gladly help. JoeD | | |
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