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Old 05-23-2006, 08:06 PM
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cleansing lotions

can someone please tell me when you would you a cleansing
lotion and why?
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I think a lot of it depends on your interpretation of a "cleansing lotion". IMO, it's an all-in-one cleaner and glaze. Such products include SEPC, PCL, and maybe even VM. I really like SEPC under any carnauba wax - adds a touch of wetness and gloss. For some reason, VM doesn't work for me.
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Joe, consider using a paintwork cleansing lotion for a number of reasons:

I think of PCL as clay in a bottle. Although I may clay my vehicles every 6 months or so to remove imbeded debris, I'll use PCL every 2-3 months to remove any spotting or minor surface imperfections that are left sitting on the surface following washing or exposure to rain. It also works great on glass to remove acid rain spotting or streaking.

Secondly I use PCL to prepare the paintwork for further treatment or waxing.
In the summer when I can wash, dry and wax my vehicles on a regular basis I like to use Carnuba wax (P21S Concours or Pinnacle Souveran) for its looks and shine. In the Winter however I prefer to use an Acrylic Sealer (like the Klasse twins) for its protection and durability. During the switchover I will use PCL (typically P21S) to completely strip the surface of any previous layers or products as part of the process.

Hope this helps and not confuses.
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Joe, consider using a paintwork cleansing lotion for a number of reasons:

I think of PCL as clay in a bottle. Although I may clay my vehicles every 6 months or so to remove imbeded debris, I'll use PCL every 2-3 months to remove any spotting or minor surface imperfections that are left sitting on the surface following washing or exposure to rain. It also works great on glass to remove acid rain spotting or streaking.

Secondly I use PCL to prepare the paintwork for further treatment or waxing.
In the summer when I can wash, dry and wax my vehicles on a regular basis I like to use Carnuba wax (P21S Concours or Pinnacle Souveran) for its looks and shine. In the Winter however I prefer to use an Acrylic Sealer (like the Klasse twins) for its protection and durability. During the switchover I will use PCL (typically P21S) to completely strip the surface of any previous layers or products as part of the process.

Hope this helps and not confuses.
BritOn2wheels , thanks for the right up. No doubt then cleansing lotions have a place in a detailers arsenal. Thanks

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Thanks BritOn2Wheels, That answers a burning question i had also
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A PCL is an absolutely necessary part of detailing, especially designed for individuals that dont clay and polish vehicles. It prepares the paint via chemically cleaning and removing oxidation, and likely fills the scratches and swirls. Dont see it needing to be used if you properly prep the finish step via step.
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Could it be used on a new car in place of claying.
Also it sounds like a maintenence you could do before you get to a yearly claying..
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I prefer to use PCL after the claying, not before. That way I'm starting with a clean canvas. Just my $0.02
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It is kind of a small niche product; one which I use very infrequently. I definitely don't see it as a subsitute for clay, but as BritOn2wheels mentioned to be used after claying. If I'm going to do any polishing, I will most likely skip the PCL step altogether as it is IMO redundant.

IMO the best place for the PCL is where I was first introduced to it, as step one in Meguiar's DC trio. The reason it is integral in that system is that the Step 2 Polish, though a truly underated product, is not really a great cleaner thus the need for a PCL.
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