Ultra high end wax

[supercharged]

Originally Posted by killrwheels@autogeek

Supercharged .... we dont know if he used Souveran or its recipe as a basis. We do know that he put it in advertisements, and based on the law might have done something illegal. Wonder why it got pulled so quickly ??

Dengood ..... Menzerna and CMA struck some kind of a deal. As such we are stuck getting it from "other" sellers. Dont buy CMA, PM me and I will show you another distributor. Also note, several of the products, other than polishes, are likely just private labeled CMA creations. Id tell more, but it could get me in alot of trouble. Stay away from CMA !!!!

I see. Then I'm lucky I got mine PO106FF from Pakshak, instead of CMA (I wanted it in original round bottle, not rebottled product).

[Excessive Detail]

Check this out, this was the video killer sent a while ago, the guy uses that expensive zymol wax, its pretty tight.
World’s Most Expensive Car Wash &raquo Australian Car Advice | News Blog

[CalgaryDetail]

Originally Posted by Excessive Detail

Check this out, this was the video killer sent a while ago, the guy uses that expensive zymol wax, its pretty tight.
World’s Most Expensive Car Wash &raquo Australian Car Advice | News Blog

ohh paul dolton. There is alot of talk about this guy. you will find half the people like him and support him and the other half hate hime with such a pasion.

I would recomend going over to autopia and doing a search for paul dolton and do some investiagtin (sorry to forum jump). Paul pr manager posted a few things (i think under the alias miracle detail). He explains alot of the misconseptions. I would recomend it so that your not being misinformed. I can find the info if you would like, just let me know. I think its only fair for everyone involved to get the facrs from the sourse and not from members on a forum who hate him for w.e reason

[CalgaryDetail]

so im bored so I thought i would find it. it does not awnser everything but it is a start so here it is.
this is a direct quotes from miracle agent.


Dear All,

Paul Dalton of Miracle Detail seems to have created a bit of a stir, so I thought I'd better try and answer a few questions. Starting with why he's not posting himself!

Basically, it's because Paul is extremely busy (detailing and correcting the paintwork of cars, as you may expect) doing 10-12 hours - with a long waiting list meaning little free time even at weekends. So he cannot post on detailing forums as much as he would like. However, he does read them because of his professional interest in detailing.

Therefore, I would like to step in as his marketing/PR guy and 1) explain a bit about the Fifth Gear feature, and 2) try and act as a conduit for any questions you may have for Paul. I will answer them as well as I can, but please bear with me as I am not a detailer myself. I am just as likely to get my terminology wrong as you would talking to me about a 'six page roll-fold in a C5 outer'

Firstly, Fifth Gear.

Fifth Gear were poised to do a feature on Paul before we launched his '5k car wash' service in a bid to raise his profile, establish his credential as a leading detailer in the UK (and beyond) and also spread the 'detailing gospel'. Remember that all publicity for Paul indirectly benefits all professional detailers. I have first hand evidence of other detailers being asked for a similar service to Paul's 5k car wash (normally for less money, as you would expect!).

The Fifth Gear feature, and subsequent mass-media coverage, required Paul's services to be simplified for a mainstream audience. These are people who don't know what a clay bar is and they would think two buckets wholly impractical. They are your mums, dads, girlfriends and 'non-believing' mates. Washing up liquid and a gritty sponge is their car care equipment of choice.

Therefore, the shoot for Fifth Gear was broken down into 'basic stages' and was not completely representative of what Paul does to a client's car. It is about as real as the film Titanic was... dramatising a true story so that everyone 'gets' it, but the details may be slightly different or inaccurate. Leonardo Di Caprio never floated away on an iceberg in real life!

So... two buckets and grit guards. Paul uses multiple buckets for client cars and uses grit guards. For the shoot he used one bucket with a grit guard because the car had been thoroughly detailed prior to the shoot. In effect, he was washing a clean car, for the benefit of the cameras.

As for Zymol Royale, at the time of this shoot, Paul was one of two to three detailers in the UK with Zymol Royale. There are now a few more. The reason for any inaccuracies is due to the time difference between shoot and broadcast date; a period of a couple of months.

Secondly, Paul would like to thank everyone for their interest and support. He has been a bit dismayed about some of the negative comments, especially from those who think he is a guy swanning around with loads of money, 'ripping people off' or who can't detail cars properly! So to address those issues quickly.

'Loadsamoney'? Nope, Paul's 5k car wash is a genuine service but for obvious reasons is a rarity... demand is currently just 1-2 of these per year and as it is based on Paul's hourly rate he doesn't earn any more from this as from a day to day full order book. Normal detailing/paint correction comes in at about 300-600 GBP per car. If it saves a respray or helps a car sell for top money then it's good value. And it's not as if you need him to come over every week.

'A rip off'? Not really. Paul charges 75 GBP plus VAT per hour, which is expensive compared to some detailers, admittedly, but he has invested heavily in his business (Merc van, 4k paint depth gauges, 7k Royale) and has formidable paint correction skills. In the UK, a main dealer charges you 100 GBP plus VAT per hour for an oil and filter change, and an average plumber charges you in the high sixties. So is Paul really pricey when working on the cars that he does? Paul's one of the top few detailers in the UK, if not the world, and I bet your plumber wouldn't be top of the same plumber's league.

'Can't detail cars properly'? What the papers/TV say, surprise, surprise, isn't always that close to reality. It is repackaged, reprocessed and regurgitated for a mass audience. 'Australian microfibre towels and filtered water' were reported third hand by one magazine as 'filtered water imported from Australia'. Quite different and a bit silly. Suffice to say, Paul has 13 years of experience, details cars to extremely high levels and is proud of his professionalism. If he was dropping his sponge on the floor every five minutes, he wouldn't get near a Veyron, would he? The results, his client list and order book show that he is doing something right - and it's not just my marketing, even if I would like to claim that it was, LOL.

Thanks for reading all this and I hope it has given you an insight into the mysterious Paul Dalton. He isn't 'above' contributing forums, he just doesn't have the time. But I will try and log in every now and again, time permitting, of course.

[Excessive Detail]

Originally Posted by CalgaryDetail

so im bored so I thought i would find it. it does not awnser everything but it is a start so here it is.
this is a direct quotes from miracle agent.


Dear All,

Paul Dalton of Miracle Detail seems to have created a bit of a stir, so I thought I'd better try and answer a few questions. Starting with why he's not posting himself!

Basically, it's because Paul is extremely busy (detailing and correcting the paintwork of cars, as you may expect) doing 10-12 hours - with a long waiting list meaning little free time even at weekends. So he cannot post on detailing forums as much as he would like. However, he does read them because of his professional interest in detailing.

Therefore, I would like to step in as his marketing/PR guy and 1) explain a bit about the Fifth Gear feature, and 2) try and act as a conduit for any questions you may have for Paul. I will answer them as well as I can, but please bear with me as I am not a detailer myself. I am just as likely to get my terminology wrong as you would talking to me about a 'six page roll-fold in a C5 outer'

Firstly, Fifth Gear.

Fifth Gear were poised to do a feature on Paul before we launched his '5k car wash' service in a bid to raise his profile, establish his credential as a leading detailer in the UK (and beyond) and also spread the 'detailing gospel'. Remember that all publicity for Paul indirectly benefits all professional detailers. I have first hand evidence of other detailers being asked for a similar service to Paul's 5k car wash (normally for less money, as you would expect!).

The Fifth Gear feature, and subsequent mass-media coverage, required Paul's services to be simplified for a mainstream audience. These are people who don't know what a clay bar is and they would think two buckets wholly impractical. They are your mums, dads, girlfriends and 'non-believing' mates. Washing up liquid and a gritty sponge is their car care equipment of choice.

Therefore, the shoot for Fifth Gear was broken down into 'basic stages' and was not completely representative of what Paul does to a client's car. It is about as real as the film Titanic was... dramatising a true story so that everyone 'gets' it, but the details may be slightly different or inaccurate. Leonardo Di Caprio never floated away on an iceberg in real life!

So... two buckets and grit guards. Paul uses multiple buckets for client cars and uses grit guards. For the shoot he used one bucket with a grit guard because the car had been thoroughly detailed prior to the shoot. In effect, he was washing a clean car, for the benefit of the cameras.

As for Zymol Royale, at the time of this shoot, Paul was one of two to three detailers in the UK with Zymol Royale. There are now a few more. The reason for any inaccuracies is due to the time difference between shoot and broadcast date; a period of a couple of months.

Secondly, Paul would like to thank everyone for their interest and support. He has been a bit dismayed about some of the negative comments, especially from those who think he is a guy swanning around with loads of money, 'ripping people off' or who can't detail cars properly! So to address those issues quickly.

'Loadsamoney'? Nope, Paul's 5k car wash is a genuine service but for obvious reasons is a rarity... demand is currently just 1-2 of these per year and as it is based on Paul's hourly rate he doesn't earn any more from this as from a day to day full order book. Normal detailing/paint correction comes in at about 300-600 GBP per car. If it saves a respray or helps a car sell for top money then it's good value. And it's not as if you need him to come over every week.

'A rip off'? Not really. Paul charges 75 GBP plus VAT per hour, which is expensive compared to some detailers, admittedly, but he has invested heavily in his business (Merc van, 4k paint depth gauges, 7k Royale) and has formidable paint correction skills. In the UK, a main dealer charges you 100 GBP plus VAT per hour for an oil and filter change, and an average plumber charges you in the high sixties. So is Paul really pricey when working on the cars that he does? Paul's one of the top few detailers in the UK, if not the world, and I bet your plumber wouldn't be top of the same plumber's league.

'Can't detail cars properly'? What the papers/TV say, surprise, surprise, isn't always that close to reality. It is repackaged, reprocessed and regurgitated for a mass audience. 'Australian microfibre towels and filtered water' were reported third hand by one magazine as 'filtered water imported from Australia'. Quite different and a bit silly. Suffice to say, Paul has 13 years of experience, details cars to extremely high levels and is proud of his professionalism. If he was dropping his sponge on the floor every five minutes, he wouldn't get near a Veyron, would he? The results, his client list and order book show that he is doing something right - and it's not just my marketing, even if I would like to claim that it was, LOL.

Thanks for reading all this and I hope it has given you an insight into the mysterious Paul Dalton. He isn't 'above' contributing forums, he just doesn't have the time. But I will try and log in every now and again, time permitting, of course.

Wow, thanks, after watching the video I did kinda question his techniques, but this clears it all up.

[dengood1]

Supercharged, do you like the PO106FF? I want to get some.

[BILL]

Originally Posted by Whitethunder46

PB's Natty's... No, for real! haha.

The only wax I can possibly see myself buying is Souveran. Let's be real, is there really a difference between Souveran and a Zymol Royale?

I doubt it.......Remember its the hard work prepping and intial paint finish that make these waxs shine to the extent of dripping..... i doubt you put any hi priced waxs on an Earl Sheib paint job that it will be outstanding........

A pristine surface ready for wax on 2 halfs of a hood with 2 waxs soveran, and Zymol, the difference between the 2 sides would be hard to tell if any difference.....
just my thought......

[boardumb]

Originally Posted by BILL

I doubt it.......Remember its the hard work prepping and intial paint finish that make these waxs shine to the extent of dripping..... i doubt you put any hi priced waxs on an Earl Sheib paint job that it will be outstanding........

A pristine surface ready for wax on 2 halfs of a hood with 2 waxs soveran, and Zymol, the difference between the 2 sides would be hard to tell if any difference.....
just my thought......

On 2 halfs of a hood there might not be a difference, BUT where these waxes really shine is when you do the whole car. Wytstang had a thread about that (for souveran anyway).

[quantim0]

I have to say that after using Max Wax and Souveran, there is no reason why I would need any other "high end" wax. I mean unless I was detailing someones Ferrari and they paid for me to use Zymol Ital or something.

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Anyone else think for 5k there should be more?

First I would think he would have a walled car wash, no sun, and wind wouldn't be able to blow more dirt on it as your washing it. Second, no two bucket method??? Filtered water??? Washing between steps like claying?
How did he dry it? Personally I believe the less you have to touch it the better, so prefer blowing it dry.

Was the water used for washing filtered or distilled even???

And what's with the applying the wax by hand?

I would be worried my own "hand oils" for lack of a better term would be mixing with it. All in all, I don't see what was any different from what any detailer out there does for much less.

I don't know, I was dissapointed, expected more technology, I don't know sumthin, these cars cost hundreds of times more than what my car did, and this is what they get?
My car gets better treatment.

He's quoting the price of some of some of the products used...yea and???

Your still comin up way short of 5k buddy.