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11-05-2006, 11:40 PM
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| | Help - what for an 07 C6 Red Vette | 
11-06-2006, 12:23 AM
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| | Welcome to AG. You can learn a lot by looking and reading posts. Check out this links: http://www.autogeek.net/detailingtips.html
Being a newbie, that link will help you learn how to take car care to the next level.
Swirls, the only way to take care of them is polishing. IMO, XMT line and PC. http://www.autogeek.net/dual-action-polisher.html
Check out the video!
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11-06-2006, 12:29 AM
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| | | Hi, ltoman. Welcome to AG forum.
Here is the process that everybody follows to maintain their vehicle as best looking in a neighborhood/showroom shine. WASH===CLAY===POLISH===PROTECT
Washing is where most of our swirls occur. That's why it's important to use proper tools and proper technique. WASH - Poorboy's SS&S, DP Xtreme foam formula, Pinnacle Bodywork shampoo are among the best. That well said, they all have pleasant fragrance, offer high lubricity, and don't dry your hands. You will also need a sheepskin wash mitt, or new Shmitt. CLAY - Pinnacle Poly clay, DP clay are excellent choices. Proper lubricant must be used with clay. Soap/water mix will dry your clay. POLISH - Pinnacle XMT series or Poorboy's SSR series will help you get rid of swirls. They work the best with PC 7424. PROTECT - (carnauba) - Pinnacle Souveran paste is the king of waxes. It is brilliant on black and awesome on black. Other nice offerings are Poorboy's Natty Blue, and DP Max Wax.
You may also choose to protect your vehicle with a synthetic sealant.
DP or Wolfgang are very nice choices. Synthetic lasts longer, but has a little sterile look. Carnaubas, though offer a warm look, but have limited durability.
It is the best to get best of both worlds, - layer carnauba wax on a top of sealant.
Hope this helps.
Good luck and happy shopping at AG.
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11-06-2006, 12:42 AM
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| | | Welcome to AG! I think Supercharged pretty much summed it up! By claying and then immediately waxing your Corvette, you're not getting rid of your swirls -- just covering them up.
If I'm not mistaken, the Porter Cables are still on sale you now would be a great time to invest! | 
11-06-2006, 01:28 AM
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| | | Thank you all; I have been reading the info and I see there is plenry more to do and buy! My question is this- what is the best polish? Pinnacle XMT? What really is the difference between that and Pinnacle's Advanced Swirl Remover? That I just do not understand. Also, is Pinnacle Souveran the best wax? It is $80, but Zaino is well rated and it is not $80. What is the difference? Where does Pinnacle's signature II carnuba wax at $40 fit in this? I want to buy te rest of what I need asap so I can finish it off this weekend. I am not interseted in the cheapest; I want the best product.
THANK YOU ALL very, very much!!!! :-) | 
11-06-2006, 01:31 AM
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| | | I know this is ignorant, but what is a porter cable? someone plmk- thank you very much guys, Lauren. | 
11-06-2006, 02:36 AM
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| | Porter cable 7424 dual action polisher is a machine that helps making swirl removing process easier. Typically you need to remove some clear coat to remove paint defect. It's not easy to do it my hand. You can maybe do a hood or a fender, before you get tired. With a machine you can do a whole car. check out the video as well. Souveran paste is the best. Matter of fact it has been used on collectors Mercedes Benz owned by Ralph Lauren. That should tell you something. After all, it a Corvette, you know. Souveran will highlight your Vette out all other Vettes.
Check this out - STOP !! Picture Time .... Souveran Only !
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11-06-2006, 02:43 AM
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| | Porter Cable is the company that makes the dual-action-polisher. Sometimes called PC, PC/DA, or just DA.
Did you see the video? They are using a PC with polish to remove swirls. http://www.autogeek.net/dual-action-polisher.html
Zaino is a sealant, not a wax. Sealants may be poly base or acrylic. Check out Duragloss, about the same thing with out all that mixing.
You can top a sealant with wax but you can not top wax with a sealant.
Wax is base on polymers and carnuba. Depends on which wax you buy.
Pinnacle IMO is one of the best, if not the best products out there.
Sealants I like Klasse, Liquid Glass and Duragloss. I'm looking at Poorboys line now.
So check out these links: http://www.autogeek.net/detailingtips.html http://www.autogeek.net/dual-action-polisher.html http://www.autogeek.net/qude101.html | 
11-06-2006, 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by ltoman Thank you all; I have been reading the info and I see there is plenry more to do and buy! My question is this- what is the best polish? Pinnacle XMT? What really is the difference between that and Pinnacle's Advanced Swirl Remover? That I just do not understand. Also, is Pinnacle Souveran the best wax? It is $80, but Zaino is well rated and it is not $80. What is the difference? Where does Pinnacle's signature II carnuba wax at $40 fit in this? I want to buy te rest of what I need asap so I can finish it off this weekend. I am not interseted in the cheapest; I want the best product.
THANK YOU ALL very, very much!!!! :-) | Autogeek offers many excellent products and product lines, that said, I understand that it can be intimidating for a newcomer. The Pinnacle ASR is the most abrasive polish in the Pinnacle line. XMT is another polish line also made by Pinnacle. If your car is brand new then you won't be needing ASR.
The clay bar does not remove swirls it removes embedded contaminants that are stuck in the car's clear coat.
Waxes will not remove swirls.
Polishing is the only way to remove a swirl. I would recommend the XMT light swirl remover kit. http://pinnaclewax.com/xmtpocaswrek.html It comes with the Porter Cable and pads and polishes and quality microfibers and the shipping is free. The signature series II is an excellent wax as well and will make all colors look good. Another excellent one is Liquid Souveran. It has excellent looks and is less expensive than the Souveran paste wax. I would recommend also the Pinnacle Bodywork shampoo so that you can buy everything from the Pinnacle store and receive the free shipping. Watch the videos on how to use the polishes and the PC. Start with the white polishing pad and XMT 1 on a small section of the car. The hood would be a good place to start. Work your polishes until they break down (approximately 5 minutes) and then buff off the residue and inspect the area. If the swirls are gone then proceed with the rest of the car, if some swirls still remain then you can move up to the XMT 2 and the white polishing pad. Work the same area again (approximately 5 minutes) and then buff and inspect the surface. Once you have removed the swirls you can proceed with the rest of the car with the correct combination. After that you can use the carnauba finishing glaze with your grey finishing pad. You don't need to work this one in for 5 minutes since it doesn't need to be broken down. A couple of minutes to spread it thoroughly and work it into the paint is all you need. Buff off residue and you are ready for your wax of choice.
It's alot to take in at once, but if you start with a kit and learn how to use the products then you can branch out and try new things if you wish. Watch the videos and work with the products and ask questions. We are all here to help you suceed. I welcome you to the forums from one lady to another. I hope you enjoy your time here and enjoy the learning process and most of all that you have fun detailing your new ride. All of the products AG offers are top quality and they will make your car shine like new for years to come. Best of luck to you. 
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11-06-2006, 02:39 PM
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| | Sealant over wax question?? You can top a sealant with wax but you can not top wax with a sealant. Thank you so much - can you humor me - why is that so? MANY thanks!!
Wax is base on polymers and carnuba. Depends on which wax you buy.
Pinnacle IMO is one of the best, if not the best products out there.
Sealants I like Klasse, Liquid Glass and Duragloss. I'm looking at Poorboys line now. Is there a sealant you like from the Pinnacle line, or do you feel the quality of one of those three you listed is superior? Thanks - you rock!
So check out these links: http://www.autogeek.net/detailingtips.html http://www.autogeek.net/dual-action-polisher.html http://www.autogeek.net/qude101.html[/quote] Thank you!
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