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10-05-2006, 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Ankhenaton Man, that Pinnacle Souveran is SOOOOO Expensive. Natty's is just as good?
Also, how do people that have used Zaino and Souveran compare the two? |
Souveran offers more depth and wetness than Nattys. It also is much easier to apply and remove. At about 30 applications per jar, thats less than 2.00 per coat. Whats a cup of Starbucks cost ??
As for Zaino versus Souveran ... its a hard take. Souveran is a carnauba with depth and wetness unequaled by any product. Zaino has come along way from the plastic wrap look it once offered. It has alot of gloss and reflectivity. What it offers is durability, and thats why its track record is polished. I dont know of many that ever get to a products end ....most of us detail far to often to worry. I will say that I dont see birdie doo-doo etching while using carnauba but have seen it more than once while using that "other" famous product.
If you like Zaino .... try Duragloss. Bet you will find it extremely similar in look and outcome. Little cheaper too ..... | 
10-06-2006, 12:53 AM
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| | Ankhenaton--I don't know how extensively you've prowled the autogeek online store, but in case you missed and you really want to try Souveran (I do!!) at a great value , then here http://www.autogeek.net/pinnacle-sou...intro-kit.html is the Souveran starter kit. In addition to the paste wax you get the quick detail spray mist, some microtowel rejuvenator wash, a few microfiber towels, coupla applicators, etc. Can't beat that.
Just FYI.
I'm ordering mine tomorrow.  | 
10-06-2006, 07:22 AM
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Originally Posted by libtech Ankhenaton--I don't know how extensively you've prowled the autogeek online store, but in case you missed and you really want to try Souveran (I do!!) at a great value , then here http://www.autogeek.net/pinnacle-sou...intro-kit.html is the Souveran starter kit. In addition to the paste wax you get the quick detail spray mist, some microtowel rejuvenator wash, a few microfiber towels, coupla applicators, etc. Can't beat that.
Just FYI.
I'm ordering mine tomorrow.  | use the coupon to save 15% off, and free shipping to boot. Might wanna move up to the Souveran Sizzling Shine Kit. The soap is very nice, and your gonna want some Crystal Mist. | 
10-06-2006, 10:02 AM
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Its kinda like "audiophiles".. They buy $1000+ speakers and super high end receivers for their music rooms... while most people listen to music on their undercabinet mount system in their kitchen and are happy....
It all depends "where you are".... If you are a Daily Driver and want the car to stay looking nice and clean, then stay with the DP, PB line....
If you have a C6, stang, high end import, old show car, etc and are fanatical about your wax.. then Souv is your wax.
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Being an "audiophile" myself, I gotta agree. It's the proverbial 80/20 rule. 20% of the cost will get you 80% of what you want. But it costs 80% to get that last 20. Souveran will get you that last 20, but at a cost. It really does depend on what you're looking for. | 
10-06-2006, 11:36 AM
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| | | Some very good advice in this thread (I liked the audiophile analogy).
Prep (as was stated) is crucial and the LSP is the icing on the cake...some like chocolate, some coconut, some vanilla...I still like the carnauba look and top my sealants with either Maxwax, Souveran, or Natty's....it's all good. Justin's work is awesome and he advised the XMT line and Maxwax...excellent choice.....they perform great and are easy to use. | 
10-06-2006, 12:43 PM
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| | | I am a Zaino User... I have Not Tryed Souveran before, but i have heard that it is not all that great on light colors... and well i have a white truck... however the Zaino i couldnt be happier... in the summer time this stuff last me up to 8 months with 1 coat of Z5 and 1 coat of Z2. Havent tested it in winter. My grandpa uses this on his black lexus, which is why i started using it, my grandpa ALWAYS has the cleanest car on the street...besides for me...lol. i am thinking of ordering some souveran and going half Zaino and Half Souveran on my moms 02 Harley truck that is just beat to crap. | 
10-06-2006, 06:23 PM
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| | | I was once a "Zaino-ite" and while I loved the product, IMO nothing compares to Souveran for that deep wet look.... | 
10-06-2006, 07:37 PM
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| | | Like everyone else say its really subjective and its all in the PREP. I prefer the Zaino line. | 
10-06-2006, 07:46 PM
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| | | It is all about prep. All a true wax will do is enhance imperfections if you do not remove them. It's like studying for a test. Take your time and study and you'll make the grade....don't and wait till the last minute and you're screwed. | 
10-06-2006, 10:14 PM
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| | | Can Souveran, Natty's, and Poor Boys be applied and removed with a PC?
Also, what is "LSP"???
And geez, sorry for my wallet lol! This place is gonna break me lol!
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