Durability Experiment -> Cloudy Hood?

[Surfer]

Originally Posted by killrwheels@autogeek

AIO is paint cleaner with no real fillers, so a perfect starting place for adding any protectant (wax or sealant).

I rub down with alcohol (alcohol is already a combination w/ water) for two reasons. Removes any missed polish, it removes any fillers, and gives a pristine finish for ANY protectant to adhere too. It also shows me if any of the swirls or marring was just hidden (by fillers) versus truly removed. That way I can go back to a polish again and again if necessary.

AIO leaves a little protection, but looks like you prefer IA. I'm almost wondering if I should just use IA from now on since my suv is white and kinda had a hard time buffing off what little AIO residue their was b/c it blended right in (had to keep using halogens and looking at sharp angles to catch anything).

[Reddwarf]

This is what confuses me about AIO. It's a paint cleaner, but also a sealant? I've read posts that say apply a thin coat and let it cure. But in this case you are wiping on and off to clean, no?

[Sn95nik]

Originally Posted by supercharged

And if you know it's gonna rain soon, park under a shelter or in a garage.

The car was in the garage, I just meant I couldn't get it out to get any good pics because of the rain. It's been a long day today, but I'll have some time off tomorrow afternoon at which point I'll try the IPA wipe down and LSP re-application. I'll update (hopefully with pics) afterwards. Thanks for the help guys, especially Killr and Surfer for confirming my suspicions. I'm still having a hard time telling just how long to work the SSR's to ensure total breakdown I guess. I worked the polish for a LONG time, but it's quite likely I just used too much. More practice is definately needed, which means, MORE DETAILING

[joe.p]

Originally Posted by killrwheels@autogeek

AIO is paint cleaner with no real fillers, so a perfect starting place for adding any protectant (wax or sealant).

I rub down with alcohol (alcohol is already a combination w/ water) for two reasons. Removes any missed polish, it removes any fillers, and gives a pristine finish for ANY protectant to adhere too. It also shows me if any of the swirls or marring was just hidden (by fillers) versus truly removed. That way I can go back to a polish again and again if necessary.

Does any of the SSR's contain fillers ?

[killrwheels@autogeek]

AIO --- an ALL IN ONE product, thus it offers cleaning and protection just like a cleaner wax. Not necessarily the best of each, but a good product. Most top it because they want to enhance the look and durability.

SSR's --- in wiping them off there is clearly some product left on paint. So I would gander some fillers are present. Does not seem to seperate like some oil based polishes (you should see my bottle of Red Moose)

[Surfer]

Originally Posted by killrwheels@autogeek

AIO --- an ALL IN ONE product, thus it offers cleaning and protection just like a cleaner wax. Not necessarily the best of each, but a good product. Most top it because they want to enhance the look and durability.

SSR's --- in wiping them off there is clearly some product left on paint. So I would gander some fillers are present. Does not seem to seperate like some oil based polishes (you should see my bottle of Red Moose)

Scott, in case you missed my post since I use AIO, do you prefer IPA over it? Or do you wipe down with IPA then go over with AIO? Just wondering since AIO leaves a little acrylic protection behind, but on a white suv there are always spots I have to go over b/c it and EX-P blend into my white lol.

[Sn95nik]

Originally Posted by Surfer

but on a white suv there are always spots I have to go over b/c it and EX-P blend into my white lol.

Don't remember where it was exactly, but I saw someone post an idea once that would be perfect for situations like this. It would basically be an additive that you mix in with your AIO/Carnuba/Sealant while applying it, that would cause it to turn a much more visible color (like bright blue) once dry. This would make things much easier to see and remove from lighter colored cars, however, I'm not sure how well you could get it to work without compromising the protection of the product. Just a random memory, sorry

[Surfer]

Originally Posted by Sn95nik

Don't remember where it was exactly, but I saw someone post an idea once that would be perfect for situations like this. It would basically be an additive that you mix in with your AIO/Carnuba/Sealant while applying it, that would cause it to turn a much more visible color (like bright blue) once dry. This would make things much easier to see and remove from lighter colored cars, however, I'm not sure how well you could get it to work without compromising the protection of the product. Just a random memory, sorry

Yea, AIO wasn't that bad, but EX-P (but I love it) blended right into my white. I had two coats on and each time I had to go over areas multiple times even though I thought I got everything b/c at slight angles I could see slight product left over.

[killrwheels@autogeek]

Originally Posted by Surfer

Scott, in case you missed my post since I use AIO, do you prefer IPA over it? Or do you wipe down with IPA then go over with AIO? Just wondering since AIO leaves a little acrylic protection behind, but on a white suv there are always spots I have to go over b/c it and EX-P blend into my white lol.

Both are fine choices .... I use AIO on several areas of the car (underhood, rain tracks) but I really dont use it on paint. Most the time polish, wipe down, repolish, jewel and a good carnuaba. When I use a sealant I end with APC after polishing before the sealant for best adhesion.

Ever thought of removing AIO with a little qd'er ?? Might get rid of those spots and add a little gloss. Id use Quikshine or Mothers Showtime.