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budman3 · #1 03-24-2008, 05:17 PM

For those of you who have used 4 Star UPP (Ultimate Paint Protection) I'm sure you were "wowed" with its appearance and slickness. However, many have reported that the durability failed prematurely BUT adding poly-charger to it made this great product even better. Well, it seems like Four Star has updated the formula and is now adding the poly-charger additive in the UPP from the factory. So no need to add poly-charger to UPP and worring about using it up before it dries out. I haven't tried UPP with poly-charger nor have I tried the new formula with poly-charger already in the bottle, but I can only imigine how much better this product will be.

Meghan or whomever at AG, do you have the updated versions of UPP in stock???

killrwheels@autogeek · #2 03-24-2008, 05:56 PM

I love the product w/ polycharger, glad to see they made it permanent. I can only hope we get/have the updated version as my bottle is about done !

Mike T · #3 03-24-2008, 06:04 PM

I just used UPP yesterday as my LSP. Thanks Killr for recommending it.
It left a beautiful finish. I plan on topping it next weekend with Souveran paste, so I won't really know about the durability.
What a really nice product.

MadOzodi · #4 03-24-2008, 06:11 PM

W00t! And so ends my quest for my next sealant. Hopefully AG will have the "new" 4*UPP + Polycharger within the next few weeks.

Where's that banana dancing smilie?

Mike T · #5 03-24-2008, 07:00 PM

UPP definitely mimics the look of a wax, which is great for darker colors.

pt91 · #6 03-24-2008, 07:19 PM

If you add PC to UPP doesn't it have a shelf life of a day or two? It isn't water based like the spray.
How does 4 star add PC to the new UPP w/out it solidifying in the bottle?
Seems like a mystery.

rwisejr · #7 03-24-2008, 07:21 PM

Isn't the what the Ultima line is ?

pt91 · #8 03-24-2008, 07:28 PM

produced by the same 4 star team. probably has some common ingredients.

HighEndDetail · #9 03-24-2008, 07:34 PM

That's good to here.

budman3 · #10 03-24-2008, 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pt91

If you add PC to UPP doesn't it have a shelf life of a day or two? It isn't water based like the spray.
How does 4 star add PC to the new UPP w/out it solidifying in the bottle?
Seems like a mystery.

The poly-charger in the UPP now is specially formulated so the shelf life of the product isn't hurt at all, unlike if you did it yourself. Gary Jones of 4 Star also said that you can go ahead and add more poly-charger to make it even more durable, but then you will have the 2 day life span. But I doubt many of us will need to do so, hopefully the new version will last long enough for our tastes. I'm glad that 4 Star listened / figured out how well UPP worked with poly-charger and made this formulation. UPP was one of the 'original' popular sealants (the other, Klasse SG) when I entered the market 6 years ago, and its still going strong. Can't wait to try out the new stuff.