LSP protection

[TOGWT]

There is no polymer product that can substantiate a claim of being scratch proof; even CeramiClear only claims scratch resistant due to its relative 'hardness'.

A Carnauba wax is a sacrificial protection that resists environmental damage better than a polymer, but lacks its durability.

Without going into subjective 'looks' school of thought, those are the choices.

[richy]

I use Collinite 476 although I think there is a Marine equivalent that is cheaper..call their 800# and ask them..they have great customer service!

[blk45]

Originally Posted by Wolf-Strong

Durability means nothing to me, as I actually love waxing my car. One month of protection is plenty, and 2 or more is a blessing.

Originally Posted by Wolf-Strong

So I've decided I want a Collnite wax, but not sure which one to get as they all make simular claims. Based purely on protection, which one would be the best choice?

476s (paste) is the most durable. I don't know if it offers "more protection" as you stated. The 845 is easier to work with though. Either one will get you well past your 2 month "blessing" mark. 476 should get you 4-6 months of protection, depending on your conditions.

[lethalxls1]

I am impressed with Pinnacle paste wax as far as ease of removing contaminants. I went for a drive and had 20 or so smashed bugs on the hood/fenders. By the time I came back home the bugs were dried hard from the sun. I took a MF clothe and a little spray of QD and the bugs wiped off with no pressure-they pretty much slid off. The surface of my car is very slick. The downside is durability but you mentioned thats not a factor. The other advantage of this wax is the awsome wet look it gives. Just my 2 cents.

[Wolf-Strong]

Originally Posted by lethalxls1

I am impressed with Pinnacle paste wax as far as ease of removing contaminants. I went for a drive and had 20 or so smashed bugs on the hood/fenders. By the time I came back home the bugs were dried hard from the sun. I took a MF clothe and a little spray of QD and the bugs wiped off with no pressure-they pretty much slid off. The surface of my car is very slick. The downside is durability but you mentioned thats not a factor. The other advantage of this wax is the awsome wet look it gives. Just my 2 cents.

Funny you should mention that! I am actually planning on buying Souveran, one of the Collnite waxes (thinking 476 at this point), and comparing them to NXT2.0 and M26. I will be testing its ability to protect, ability to release dirt, sheeting, beading, looks (of course), and durability as far as 2 months. I have a jet black car so this should be an interesting test!

[Suek]

Originally Posted by TOGWT

There is no polymer product that can substantiate a claim of being scratch proof; even CeramiClear only claims scratch resistant due to its relative 'hardness'.

A Carnauba wax is a sacrificial protection that resists environmental damage better than a polymer, but lacks its durability.

Without going into subjective 'looks' school of thought, those are the choices.

I would have thought durability would also mean 'resists environmental damage'. I think you may have it turned around by mistake.

[Wolf-Strong]

Originally Posted by Suek

I would have thought durability would also mean 'resists environmental damage'. I think you may have it turned around by mistake.

After doing more research in the area, it seems as though the two do not go hand in hand. What I am looking for is something that will release the dirt very easily, and from what I have heard, polymer-based LSP and synthetics do not do this, which accounts for a majority of waxes out there. For instance, Zaino may last a long time, and while it may be slick, I have heard plenty of people say that for doing touchless car washes, it is not a good LSP as it does not release dirt and such very easily. A lot of those people are using carnauba based LSPs now, and some even use Zymol Vintage as it seems to do miracles in releasing dirt.

I just bought Colnite 476, Meguiar's NXT 2.0, and Pinnacle Souveran, so I will see how these work for my situation.

[TOGWT]

Originally Posted by Suek

I would have thought durability would also mean 'resists environmental damage'. I think you may have it turned around by mistake.

Acid rain, Bird / Insect excrement, etc cause 'environmental damage' to which Carnauba wax has a better resistance to than a polymer, but for durability (separate criteria) a polymer will outlast a wax

Carnauba wax doesn't form a molecular bond with a paint surface and will 'shed' road dirt, grime etc as the dirt will form a bond with the wax and be removed along with a micro amount of wax (hence the term wax as a 'sacrificial LSP')

[Wolf-Strong]

Originally Posted by TOGWT

Acid rain, Bird / Insect excrement, etc cause 'environmental damage' to which Carnauba wax has a better resistance to than a polymer, but for durability (separate criteria) a polymer will outlast a wax

Carnauba wax doesn't form a molecular bond with a paint surface and will 'shed' road dirt, grime etc as the dirt will form a bond with the wax and be removed along with a micro amount of wax (hence the term wax as a 'sacrificial LSP')

I'm sure that is a much less confusing explanation than mine for those viewing!