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    Menzerna: Successfully confusing me

    Whats up with Menzerna? Its hard enough figuring out the difference between many of their products, but it seems they have changed the names several times, even while the old and newer? names still persist.

    Interested in a light polish as well as a sealant for my BMW with hard or maybe even Ceramic paint. But dang if I can figure out what product is best, mostly because they changed the names, and declare a newer product to be the 'new and improved' version. Whoever is in charge of marketing needs to find a new line of work:

    What was Nano Polish PO106A became Super Finish SF4000, but just now is called Super Finish SF3500...I think. I was interested in SF4500, but for the life of me I can find out what that is now called.

    Which are formulated for Ceramic Paint?

    Am I the only one confused here?

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    Re: Menzerna: Successfully confusing me

    Have you looked on the AG store site? I wasn't aware that there were newer versions of these polishes, but it looks like they are explained in pretty good detail in the store. It shows SF3800 as being the new/improved version of SF4500 and like you noted, SF3500 as the upgrade of SF4000. Their naming/numbering system is confusing for sure, but I think they do a decent job describing what each product is intended to be used for.

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    Re: Menzerna: Successfully confusing me

    4500 is now 3800. Menzerna is moving to a world wide color coding system.

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    Re: Menzerna: Successfully confusing me

    Quote Originally Posted by roguerobot View Post
    Whats up with Menzerna? Its hard enough figuring out the difference between many of their products, but it seems they have changed the names several times, even while the old and newer? names still persist.

    Interested in a light polish as well as a sealant for my BMW with hard or maybe even Ceramic paint. But dang if I can figure out what product is best, mostly because they changed the names, and declare a newer product to be the 'new and improved' version. Whoever is in charge of marketing needs to find a new line of work:

    What was Nano Polish PO106A became Super Finish SF4000, but just now is called Super Finish SF3500...I think. I was interested in SF4500, but for the life of me I can find out what that is now called.

    Which are formulated for Ceramic Paint?

    Am I the only one confused here?
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    Re: Menzerna: Successfully confusing me

    It was a disappointment as I just gotten used to their system. I even liked the sleek, professional look of the labels...

    Then again M100/M205, and I'm good..

    FG400, and SF 4000 are a fantastic combination though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by roguerobot View Post
    Am I the only one confused here?
    Holy cow, no, you're not.

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    Re: Menzerna: Successfully confusing me

    dang! now I've got to remember all these new numbers !!!

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    Re: Menzerna: Successfully confusing me

    It's funny, I understand how they went from product numbers that had no relation to the function, to a "grit-based" system, where people can numerically compare say, a compound to a finish polish, but it's just silly to now slightly tweak the numbers and descriptions so that every product has a different name than it did 2 years ago--either they should have done it that way in the first place, or just live with it the way it was.

    As confusing as this is for us, how much of a pain must this buy for the distributors? They've got to change all their product pages, all the references of "follow this up with SF4500...er...or 3800...or something" not to mention the inventory issues of mixed stock etc. etc. It's just dumb.

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    Re: Menzerna: Successfully confusing me

    And the cost of new labelling, packaging, associated merchandise and marketing will inevitably be passed onto the customer....

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