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Old 06-26-2007, 05:13 PM   #1
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Looking for a strong safe wheel cleaner

Right now I am using PB wheel spray, and also CGs wheel spray. I have heard these may be too strong and can strip the clearcoat over time. Any other suggestions?

Im thinking P21S Gel but Its a little pricey, so any suggestions would be helpful. THanks!
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use car wash soap and a black wheel shmitt...if you step down on chemical cleaning power you often have to upgrade mechanical abbrasives...its the unfortunate truth...a good thing is also that new power washer you bought...just the pressure alone from that will blast of most grime with the vario spray wand...dont use the power blasting wand...that will begin to blast off paint
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Buy the P21S in larger sizes, then realize you use very little and it will last for months and months.
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use car wash soap and a black wheel shmitt...if you step down on chemical cleaning power you often have to upgrade mechanical abbrasives...its the unfortunate truth...a good thing is also that new power washer you bought...just the pressure alone from that will blast of most grime with the vario spray wand...dont use the power blasting wand...that will begin to blast off paint
I would use the schmitt (i have the black one) but my wheels have too many spokes and it doesnt work that well in the deep parts.

So do you agree that the CG and PB may be too harsh?

Would the P21s Gel be gentle enough?
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As killr says, buy P21s i larger cans, you dont need to use much, and keep alittle distance to the wheels when spraying. it sticks very well, and cleans great.

Ive got myself a 5 liter can of it, and that lasts for many many wheels.
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might be a good time to use the 15% off sale thats going on !
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I've been told by a detailing bud that a better alternative to PB's is amazing Roll Off cut 50% with water. No acid,no danger, works better.

Going to get a gallon on my next order!!!!
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I use P21S and Meguiar's wheel brightener... Meg's WB should be diluted 4:1 per instructions, but I do it 5-6:1 and use only on painted wheels, as it dulls polished ones.

P21S from my experience is gentle enough for anything but it is a bit pricier compared to others.
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Between PB, P21S, and DP. PB cleans the best, then P21S, then DP. But P21S and DP are safer then PB.

I just finished my bottle of P21S. Got a new bottle of PB coming. Once I finish my bottle of DP, Ill get a new bottle of P21S. Having PB and P21S in stock will cover everything.
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Between PB, P21S, and DP. PB cleans the best, then P21S, then DP. But P21S and DP are safer then PB.

I just finished my bottle of P21S. Got a new bottle of PB coming. Once I finish my bottle of DP, Ill get a new bottle of P21S. Having PB and P21S in stock will cover everything.
Does the Gel use the same sprayer as the regualr P21S? I was thinking about getting the refill size gel but using the old P21S regular wheel spray bottle sprayer
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