Meguiar's #21 sealant hides swirls?

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[Vegas Transplant]

Originally Posted by smack

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ROFL !

[VR8]

Originally Posted by smack

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Originally Posted by Vegas Transplant

ROFL !

LOL. No kidding. How quickly things can take a turn for worse. We all like to see a train wreck.


SO, to keep things in order.

I was told by my supplier that #21 does indeed have some "fillers". He's a painter and long time detailer who has a pretty good relationship with his Meguiar's rep, so I believe him. Does it matter if it has fillers? Not really to me. I use Meg's #20 and #21 for ALL my details. It's a low cost, quality sealant that looks as good as anything else I've used. And I like sticking with a 100 year old company who has had much success.

As for longevity, I tell the customer 4-6 months ... and make their next appointment when possible.

[Meticulous-Detail]

Originally Posted by Nicholas@Autowerx

Give D151 a look if you want a cheapo compound for wash & wax type jobs. In my experience clients that are looking for a less expensive service don't always have the best kept paint finishes... D151 actually provides a decent amount of correction and leaves wax protection behind as well. It slightly fills as well, as any wax does to a certain extent. However, if you work it right it will survive an IPA wipe down and the panel will still look great.

+1 Love D151. Great AIO, then top with DG 105 or Colly 845/476s and your good.

[jfelbab]

Rambling thoughts on fillers...

By the very nature of polishing, any oils used as lubricants in the polish will fill or hide light swirls. This is true of any abrasive polish from any manufacturer. The same is true for a wax or sealant. They will hide light swirls

Why is this considered bad? Sure there are some (many?) here that will want to remove more paint to get to a perfect flawless finish but that perfect finish lasts for a fleetingly short time if you actually use the vehicle. Then you need to go back and grind off more paint over and over again.

I consider a product that hides light marring as a good thing. You don't need to remove as much paint, which is darn thin to begin with, and the look is 90-95% as good when you finish. On a driven vehicle, both only last for a short time before you will need to repeat the process, but in the latter case you will be leaving much more of the precious paint on the car.

In as much as the very top surface of the clear coat is more dense, harder and shinier, it seems preferable, to not remove excess paint in your details. IMO, slight filling is a plus for a vehicle you intend to keep for several years.

Too many variables to delve into the many products specifically. I like and have used several jugs of M21. It's a pretty good sealant but I prefer their Ultimate Liquid Wax (sealant) though. I too prefer dealing with a company that has been passionate about their products for over 110 years.

[FUNX725]

Originally Posted by VR8

LOL. No kidding. How quickly things can take a turn for worse. We all like to see a train wreck.


SO, to keep things in order.

I was told by my supplier that #21 does indeed have some "fillers". He's a painter and long time detailer who has a pretty good relationship with his Meguiar's rep, so I believe him.
And I like sticking with a 100 year old company who has had much success.

-I was thinking just the opposite of: things taking a turn for the worse:
(Even though you say otherwise)...Not a train wreck...IMO.

I appreciate anyone taking over as conductor...
being charged with righting this thread (train) of the OP's...

...the train that someone,, whose only interest/concern was
(according to the lastest information available to me):

-To ensure that the train was going to stop at the Depot where it was rumored that there
were some: 'passengers'...waiting to board, that had some ful-filling information for OP: David...
while the train, itself, was being tended---in order that:

-The train would not be going unabatedly-headlong into what may be construed/misconstrued
as yet another detailing mythical-railhead.


I agree that a company that's been in business for 100+ years...has had much success;
and, that 'they' and their 'trained reps.' are, for the most part: Believable.


I like/use Meg's car-care products.
Also, perhaps I should include: "They 'fill' my heart with joy"!



Bob

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WHAT?!?!? No...

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For me a big deal breaker is how long a company has been around. I dont jump on a bandwagon because it is a new product or anything of that matter. I need/want a manufacturer who has stood the test of time and Meguiar's has done that above almost all else.

Now if brand X, Y, or whatever you fancy has "fillers" or whatever what difference does it make??? It is helping you in the end to smooth the surface. I am in no way saying that I would want to use a glaze or something chock full of "Fillers" but a wax, seleant or whatever that has them is only benefiting the user when applying that last touch.

[wangotango]

have enjoyed this thread folks
BUT.....
I think Johnny Ringo said "Eventus stultorum magister".
It's one of many great lines in a great film.
Good one.

[Vegas Transplant]

You're right:

Tombstone - Doc Holliday meets Johnny Ringo -...

Thanks for the correction hand!

Been meaning to change my sig to a Groucho quote...now's a good time.