Dusting with D151 Meguiars Paint Reconditiong Creme?

[bwatereagleman]

Hello all! I am new to the AutoGeek Forums, so please bear with me. I have gained tremendous knowledge and insight by reading what everyone has posted, and it is certainly helping me with a few of the cars that I personally detail as well as to help me guide the guys who we employ. So thanks and everyone keep up the great write-ups ... you all make it sound so easy!

Here is my background. Currently, I represent a small used car dealership (boo hiss) where we detail approximately 30-35 cars a month, so realistically we have employed a production style of paint reconditioning. One of the products in our stable is the Meguiars D151 Paint Reconditioning Creme.

We absolutely enjoy the results and simplicity of the product, but one issue we run up against is the dust it creates. Is this normal? Or are we applying it incorrectly? For further information we are using the Porter Cable DAs with Meguiars 6.5 inch pads. We prime the pads and use 3-4 quarter sized dollops thereafter. We clean our pads rather effectively (I think).

If dusting is the nature of the product, what are some ways you all are effectively handling the dust. I would think that dust would introduce the possibility of further scratches if you towel it off. Am I correct in that?

Also, I don't detail cars regularly but would like to be in the know so I can at least assist our guys, but is there something out on the web or on this forum that is a guide for vehicle paint hardness/softness?

And by the way... just as an informal poll, and chime in if you want, but vertical panels give me trouble. How about you?

Thanks again for your help!

[ihaveacamaro]

If you tape up any body panel seam that dust could get into, that helps a lot. Also tape up a beach towel to the windshield and microfiber towels to the windows. This allows any dusting that might happen to be gone simply by taking the towels and tape off the paint.

I've never used D151, but if you're getting excessive dusting, then it could be that you are using too much product. However, I am not 100% certain of this, as I have never used it.

[bwatereagleman]

Thanks for the response. The dust that accumulates on the windshield or in cracks and crevices is most certainly annoying, and yes we should adopt the taping procedure. What is most concerning though is the dust that just accumulates on the just polished/buffed painted surfaces.

I have never thought that we would be using too much product. That's interesting. With the products you use, do you have a dusting issue? Is that dust safe to just towel off or is a damp towel with some type of exterior detailer or rinseless wash a best practice?

[Circa40]

A lot of polishes create dust, even some that claims to be dust free. The only way that I've been able to reduce it is to mist quick detailer on the surface when wiping off the polish. I would recommend Optimum No Rinse as it dilutes and overall a great value.

[AeroCleanse]

Never had dusting issues with D151. Not sure what you could be doing.

For pad cleaning after each section, blowing out with compressed air may help.

[Dr Oldz]

Originally Posted by AeroCleanse

Never had dusting issues with D151. Not sure what you could be doing.

For pad cleaning after each section, blowing out with compressed air may help.

Usually dusting with 151 is caused by using too much product. Prime pad properly then just a few pea size drops is needed for each section.

[bwatereagleman]

Originally Posted by AeroCleanse

Never had dusting issues with D151. Not sure what you could be doing.

For pad cleaning after each section, blowing out with compressed air may help.

Thanks for the input ... I have personally cleaned the pad "on the fly" as Mike Phillips has shown, used compressed air, brushed it with a pad brush, and even removed the pad from the DA and washed it half way through polishing the vehicle. I really don't think the pad has too much product build up, but maybe as ihaveacamaro suggested we are just using a tad too much product per section or has Circa40 mentions it is a polish and subsequently there is going to be some dust.

AeroCleanse are you a regular user of D151? If so, what is your process? How are you priming the pad if at all? How much product per section if your section size is about 20"x20"?

I'm sure there are other products available that may be more suitable that D151 for our application, but we have a Meguiars distributor right down the street from our location and the owner's and family have been super supportive of our business, so in turn we want to support their business.

[bwatereagleman]

Originally Posted by Dr Oldz

Usually dusting with 151 is caused by using too much product. Prime pad properly then just a few pea size drops is needed for each section.

I will try using a little less product. Thanks for the input.

[AeroCleanse]

Originally Posted by bwatereagleman

Thanks for the input ... I have personally cleaned the pad "on the fly" as Mike Phillips has shown, used compressed air, brushed it with a pad brush, and even removed the pad from the DA and washed it half way through polishing the vehicle. I really don't think the pad has too much product build up, but maybe as ihaveacamaro suggested we are just using a tad too much product per section or has Circa40 mentions it is a polish and subsequently there is going to be some dust.

AeroCleanse are you a regular user of D151? If so, what is your process? How are you priming the pad if at all? How much product per section if your section size is about 20"x20"?

I'm sure there are other products available that may be more suitable that D151 for our application, but we have a Meguiars distributor right down the street from our location and the owner's and family have been super supportive of our business, so in turn we want to support their business.

Semi regular user. I correct with a wool pad on a rotary using the normal pickup method. I then follow up with a polishing pad on a DA if needed to remove holograms after inspection.

On the DA, I place an X across the pad (I like the Hexlogic pads), then do each section, blow out the pad and repeat.

[D_Nyholm]

I use d151 regularly on lake country ccs pads. I have found that it is a product that you can use a decent amount of without many I'll effects I will use a decent amount in the beginning (a swirl around the outside of the pad and a drop in the center. After, I add 2 nickel sized drops for each section. I will occasionally add more as the pad dries out or I clean it off. I do not get much dusting this way. I have also noticed that if I use hydro tech pads, I need to use much less product or I will get dusting.