Product advice for new car

[Minoan212]

Hi there,

I just purchased a new Ford Edge and could use your advice on products that will keep it looking new. It will be parked outside year round, so I am particularly concerned with protecting it the best I can from the winter weather.

I haven't done detailing in ages, so I consider myself a novice. I am looking for any recommendations regarding products that are fairly easy to apply, and would provide great protection and finish. I will be doing everything by hand.

So far it looks like I will need:

Chrome polish
Tire cleaner/shine
Wash - my manual mentions that I should use a neutral ph wash
Polish - Do I need to polish a new car?
Clay
Paint Sealant
Wax

Am I missing anything?

Any advice you can offer will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Troy

[darkangelism]

You probably should polish, to fix the swirls the dealer probably put in it, but inspect the paint under direct sunlight and see if there are any. If you haven't picked up the car yet, ask them not to wash it before giving it to you, they tend to cause more problems than they fix with the paint.

Get some good microfiber towels.

[Mike Phillips]

Wash - my manual mentions that I should use a neutral ph wash

Read through this, substitute your favorite brand name car wash as most brand names are non-detergent and pH balanced after mixing with water.

How to wash your car KISS style!

KISS stands for Keep it Simple Simon

Polish - Do I need to polish a new car?
Clay
Paint Sealant
Wax

New people joining our forum have questions like yours so I've written an reply that I'm also going to turn into an article.


What to do with your new car by Mike Phillips


Below is the order of steps to do to your car. Note that even a brand new car may need some of the below procedures because car paint becomes contaminated while it's being shipped and while it's being stored.

Also, dealerships are notorious for putting their new cars through their own detail shop to get them ready to sell only to have their in-house detailers instill swirls and scratches at the same time they're supposed to be making the car look beautiful.

It's sad to say, but that's how the new and used car dealerships here in the United States work.

So after getting your brand new car, or your new-to-you used car home, here's what you do.

1. Wash and dry.
2. Inspect the paint with your sense of touch and visually in bright, overhead sunlight.
3. Iron X paint and wheels - Then re-wash to remove the Iron X residues off the paint and wheels.
4. Clay - If needed. Your inspection will tell you.
5. Polish - If needed. Your inspection will tell you.
6. Apply either a Car Wax or a Paint Sealant

Note: You really only need to use one type of protection product. Some people use two types but you don't have to. Instead you could apply two coats of the same product. Protection products include,

• Car Waxes
• Synthetic Paint Sealants
• Paint Coatings

See this article for more information
3-Categories: Waxes, Paint Sealants and Coatings

How to inspect your car's paint after you have washed and dried it.
Watch the below short videos. In them, I show you how to inspect your car's paint. It is by inspecting your car's paint that you determine what needs to be done.


This is one of my better write-ups with over 100 high resolution pictures showing before, process and after shots. Here's the link to the entire thread.

1954 Ford F-100 - Extreme Makeover - Process and products used



Here's what you want to do to any car that you're going to detail
First, wash and dry the car so you remove any loose dirt. This keeps you from rubbing the dirt into the paint when you feel it with your hand or a baggie for above surface bonded contaminants.

It also removes the dirt to get it out of the way so your eyes can SEE if there are any swirls in the paint.

So wash and dry first, then inspect with your sense of touch and visually with your eyes.

How to feel the paint with your hand to check and see if you need to clay the paint

How to inspect the paint using the sun to check for swirls, holograms and scratches

Your results and what to do?


Paints is in good shape
If the paint feels smooth as glass and if you don't see any swirls or scratches, or if swirls and scratches don't bother you then you can keep it simple and,

A: Apply a wax or paint sealant - Skip all other steps after washing and drying and inspecting.

B: Use a pre-wax cleaner and then apply a wax or paint sealant. A pre-wax cleaner, also called a paint cleaner simply ensures the paint surface is squeaky clean and clear and perfectly prepared to accept a wax or paint sealant. If you opt to use a paint coating you'll want to follow the manufactures directions for prepping the paint before applying the coating as directions vary.

Paints is in bad shape


If you discover the paint has above surface bonded contaminants then you need to clay the paint. You have two options,

Option 1: Wash and dry the car and then clay paint.
This is the normal way most people started their detailing project till products like Iron-X were introduced. That is after washing, drying and inspecting, if they felt contaminants on the paint they would move onto the claying step.


Option 2: Wash and dry the car and then use Iron-X to remove any iron particles and then re-wash the car to remove the Iron X residue and dissolved iron particles. Dry the car and then clay the paint.


The benefit this approach offers is,

IF there are any iron particles in your car's paint you will dissolve and remove them chemically with the Iron-X instead of abrading and pulling them out with clay and then potentially instilling swirls and scratches into the paint because now you have iron particles embedded into the clay that you're rubbing all over the paint.


Iron X = Insurance Policy
In my opinion, doing an Iron-X treatment to paint that you've never worked on before is a good idea, it's like an insurance policy. You buy insurance to protect ourself but you hope you never need it.

You use Iron-X JUST IN CASE there's any iron particles in the paint but you actually hope that there's not.

It's better to use Iron-X and NOT see the spray turn red than it is to see the spray turn read. Think about it, if it turns red that means there was iron particles in the paint, that's a bad thing. If it doesn't, it's whew... I got lucky.

Then after choosing and following the steps in one of the above options you move on to the next step, which is usually doing some type of correction work to the paint using a combination of compounds and polishes, or keep it simple and use what are called pre-wax cleaners or paint cleaners.

Both of these steps,

Correcting with compounds and/or polishes

OR

Using a Pre-Wax cleaner

Are done after the washing, claying steps and before the sealing step where you will apply your choice of a,

• Car Wax
• Synthetic Paint Sealant
• Paint Coating

Each of the three categories above are different types of products that do the same general thing and that is leave a layer of protection on the paint to protect it and make the paint look good.

You only need to use one product from one of the three categories. You don't have to use products from more than one category although a lot of "Serious Car Enthusiasts" will as an option apply a synthetic paint sealant first for long lasting, durable protection and top this sealant with a coat of wax for aesthetics reasons, that is to make the paint look beautiful.

After all of the above is done, you can then maintain your car's finish using a combination of spray detailers and spray waxes or spray sealants.

A spray detailer is for removing,

• Light dust
• Fingerprints
• Smudges
• Clay Lube (when claying)

A spray wax or a spray sealant is typically a faster, shortcut way of restoring that just waxed look without having to actually get out a traditional liquid or paste type product. Instead you mist on the spray wax or spray sealant, spread it around and wipe it off in the same way you would use a spray detailers.

People get confused as to what the difference is between a spray detailer and a spray wax so here's the difference,

A spray detailer is for cleaning your car, getting dust of it without scratching the paint. A spray on wax or spray-on sealant is for adding more protection to paint that is ALREADY CLEAN, for example after you wash the car or AFTER YOU USE A SPRAY DETAILER.

Simple really, but for some reason a lot of people get confused over spray detailers and spray waxes.


I certainly don't want to scare anyone or make washing and waxing your car any more complicated than it has to be, I'm just trying to lay out ALL the various factors to consider if the car in question is important to you as well as your time and money/investment.

Here's how the 1954 Ford came out after doing all the necessary steps and then applying a coating of Pinnacle Signature Series II

Pinnacle Signature Series II Carnauba Paste Wax

1954 Ford F-100 - Modeled by Janna

[kevin39208]

I have a question similar to the OP's. I have a new car myself, dark blue in color that came with free swirls, and what appears to be water etchings. Mike, I have read your post on what to do with a new car. Great post. My question is for the products to be used. I read on another post about using WG Duo twins and on another about the Optimum Hyper Polish and Hyper Compound.
Which one do you recommend and in addition to the pad to use with them? After claying my vehicle of course.
Thanks guys

[Minoan212]

Wow! Thanks a lot for the info Mike. It is greatly appreciated.

[ScottB]

perhaps a coating system would be a good choice if the car is outside 24/7.

[FishyX]

20,000 miles and loving my Ford Edge! Since I live in Michigan and keep my vehicle outside 24/7, the very first thing I did was to undercoat it with about 10 cans of 3M Professional undercoat. A great sealent is the way to go if she's gonna live outside. I've always trusted Zaino Z-2 to get me through the long winters here but have recently switched to the Duragloss line because of all the awesome reviews here. I went with the 601/105 combo and use their Aquawax after every wash. If the durability is even close to the Z, I will be a happy camper. I've also been extremely impressed by these waterless and rinseless wash products and look forward to trying them on warm winter days. I think you will really enjoy your new ride!!!!

[Minoan212]

Thanks again for all of the info guys.