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08-12-2012, 06:06 PM
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| How do you avoid type 3 water spots on SS paint?
What should someone, who lives in So Cal, with single stage paint use to avoid water spots.
They polish, wax, etc and still get type 3 water spots.
Would using a glaze help?
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08-12-2012, 06:51 PM
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| Re: How do you avoid type 3 water spots on SS paint?
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Originally Posted by david79z28  What should someone, who lives in So Cal, with single stage paint use to avoid water spots.
They polish, wax, etc and still get type 3 water spots.
Would using a glaze help? | OK, I'll bite, what is a type 3 water spot? Is it left by the rain or is it a product of the water used to wash and rinse?
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08-12-2012, 07:38 PM
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| Re: How do you avoid type 3 water spots on SS paint?
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08-13-2012, 11:03 AM
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| Re: How do you avoid type 3 water spots on SS paint?
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Originally Posted by Buckskincolt
OK, I'll bite, what is a type 3 water spot?
| 3 - Types of Water Spots - Type I, Type II and Type III Type III Water Spots
Type III Water Spots are spots that look faded or dull and are found primarily found on single stage paints after a water source lands on and then pools on the paint and is usually left to dwell on the surface for some measure of time before it evaporates or is wiped-off the surface.
Modern clear coat paints tend to be harder and impermeable, that is non-porous, so liquids don't penetrated easily and thus stain spots tend to be topical, that is only affect the very upper surface and are easier and safer to remove with a compound or polish.
Older single stage paints tend to be soft and permeable, or porous, it's common for liquids to penetrate into the paint and stain the paint below the surface. Removing stains out of single stage paints can be risky because in order to remove the stains you have to abrade the paint and if the stains penetrated deep then you risk removing too much in an effort to try to remove them completely.   | |
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08-13-2012, 11:08 AM
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#5 | | Director of Training
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| Re: How do you avoid type 3 water spots on SS paint?
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Originally Posted by david79z28
What should someone, who lives in So Cal, with single stage paint use to avoid water spots.
They polish, wax, etc and still get type 3 water spots. | I think the best thing to try would be something that will completely seal the surface so water cannot seep into the pores of the paint. Perhaps try Opti-Coat II although it was designed for clear coat paints I've applied it to single stage without any known problems. Whether it will stop the problem or not I do not know though... Quote:
Originally Posted by david79z28 Would using a glaze help?
| Loading the pores and any other voids "in" the paint with polishing oils would help to prevent water from filling the pores and voids so in that sense it would help.
Coatings like Opti-Coat or EXO, or Crystal Lacquer or CarPro CQuartz are all supposed to be applied over oil, wax and grease free finish for proper bonding.
Trying any of the above to prevent Type III Water Spots on single stage paint would all be experimental. | |
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08-13-2012, 12:22 PM
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| Re: How do you avoid type 3 water spots on SS paint?
Thanks Mike.
These sound like a real PIA!!!
I passed your response on.
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08-13-2012, 07:18 PM
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| Re: How do you avoid type 3 water spots on SS paint?
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Originally Posted by Mike.Phillips@Autogeek 3 - Types of Water Spots - Type I, Type II and Type III Type III Water Spots
Type III Water Spots are spots that look faded or dull and are found primarily found on single stage paints after a water source lands on and then pools on the paint and is usually left to dwell on the surface for some measure of time before it evaporates or is wiped-off the surface.
Modern clear coat paints tend to be harder and impermeable, that is non-porous, so liquids don't penetrated easily and thus stain spots tend to be topical, that is only affect the very upper surface and are easier and safer to remove with a compound or polish.
Older single stage paints tend to be soft and permeable, or porous, it's common for liquids to penetrate into the paint and stain the paint below the surface. Removing stains out of single stage paints can be risky because in order to remove the stains you have to abrade the paint and if the stains penetrated deep then you risk removing too much in an effort to try to remove them completely. | Thank You very much Mike!  Had not seen that article, very good read and information! Always learning! 
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