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Old 07-14-2012, 07:00 PM   #1
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do i need to clay before poli-seal???

I was reading about AIOs on here, mainly to use on friends cars where I can't justify a weekend fixing the terrible things they've done to their paint

The main questions I have are:

1. do i need to clay before I use this? It's implied that it is a cleaner as well, but not sure what that means exactly.

2. What colour CCS pad would I use?
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Old 07-14-2012, 07:07 PM   #2
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Re: do i need to clay before poli-seal???

If the car hasn't been clayed within a year, clay it. Start with the least aggressive pad (white) first.
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Re: do i need to clay before poli-seal???

I would safely say that claying is a necessity before using a polisher to do anything. Even if you're car's paint is in great shape, it's much better to be on the safe side and remove as much contaminants as possible before a pad will rotate in high speed all over your exterior.

As in many other cases of AIO's and other Pre-Wax Cleaners, Optimum's instructions are to use a polishing pad, which is white in your case (CCS).

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Re: do i need to clay before poli-seal???

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I was reading about AIOs on here, mainly to use on friends cars where I can't justify a weekend fixing the terrible things they've done to their paint

The main questions I have are:

1. do i need to clay before I use this? It's implied that it is a cleaner as well, but not sure what that means exactly.

2. What colour CCS pad would I use?
This is where your test spot comes into play hand.
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It's implied that it is a cleaner as well, but not sure what that means exactly. Get the picture?
LC white pads and OPS from a filthy vehicle that was traditionally washed and 90 min clay/ONR process...

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Re: do i need to clay before poli-seal???

Ok...what about Iron X?? I've been reading on this site for a while now. I'm a not very experienced weekend warrior. Today was teh first time I had seen Iron X listed in steps. I asked about it and was told that this always need to be done. Any comments on this??
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Re: do i need to clay before poli-seal???

Not doubting you BMW...just kinda trying to spread the word...it seems not many people talk about this step...
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Re: do i need to clay before poli-seal???

The thing is Iron-X is relatively new to the industry. Typically claying was the answer for removing bonded contaminates from the paint. There are some other ways, Finish Kare has a paint decon system along with a couple others.

But what it is thought is that when you clay and there is metal imbedded into your paint the metal shears off and part is still there. By using IX you eat away the stuff imbedded below the surface leaving behind a much cleaner healthier paint allowing your protection to bond better and fill in the micro pits better protecting the paint for the long haul.

if you want a top end look and want your LSP to last Claying is a must. IX makes it better but for many it's still not a required step. IMO I'd call it a preferred option!
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Re: do i need to clay before poli-seal???

Thanks guys, that's kinda what I thought, the idea of polishing without claying seemed wrong...

Vegas, I can't believe the colour of those pads!!!

Also, I've heard of Iron X and am thinking of getting some, if only to make claying of a daily driver easier
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