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02-22-2007, 01:41 PM
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#71 | | Senior Member
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Ohh how ignorange is bliss...
Ok im only posting this to clear a few things up. I dont think its fair to anyone involved for these rumors to starts..
1. the 5K detail was not the one shown, for that detail he takes your car for a week and worls on it. There are pleanty more steps invlolved, I belive its what the 64 stagecar wash is (im not sure though). The 5k detail comes with mulitle coats of wax, as well as the interior is taken car of multiple times (leather conditioning and stuff).
2.For the video the car was alreadt washed, he washed a clean car. Remeber it was for TV not for detailers, the show wanted a clean car to be cleaned again as it looks better on TV
3.I dry my car with a MF cloth. i dont use a leag blower of vacume that can blow. Its not what I do. I will use somthign to they cracks out, but rember with paul it was a 7ish minute clip, he didint have time to show everything, the tv show ededited to a few simple steps to make it mote user freindly
4.With applying wax by hand, it is what is recomened by Zymol, it is an aquired tatse however I have used a few waxes where it is recomeneded. Once you do gte the hang of it (there is a learning cureve) it is more enjoyable as well as the results are better
5. Im not sure what you mean about more tech. so i wont touch it
6. With him quoteing the prices, this is somthing the guys filming it where asking him. He just wasnt like ohh i spent this and this, they wanted to know, again for the viewer. With the cost of the wax, he dosent tell his customers what it costs so i dont see the issue.
I think its time people take a step back and really evaluate the video, cumon its 7 minutes, make a 7 minute detail video for me and we can have just as much fun.
I dont know if anyone will read this, nor do i care. Im just needed to do it for my own health.
Ignorance is bliss... i guees
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02-22-2007, 08:29 PM
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#72 | | Moderator
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I think you are all digging way to deep into this and have certainly taken the original content off track, so bring it back, or we are closing it down.
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02-22-2007, 09:28 PM
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#73 | | Member
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Well, I do plan on spending some money on a nice carnauba soon, and its going to be suoveran, or some zymol under $100.
I dont need durability, I'll have a sealant underneath for that, I just want super wetness!
Killer, why dont you try out your ridiculously priced ital and tell us if its better than souv?
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02-22-2007, 10:17 PM
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#74 | | Moderator
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I have now used both versions of Ital, original and new. All things considered Souveran is still the winner. The new Ital loses to much in price as not "all that better" and more than 400 times the price at 360.00.
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02-22-2007, 10:34 PM
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Originally Posted by killrwheels@autogeek I have now used both versions of Ital, original and new. All things considered Souveran is still the winner. The new Ital loses to much in price as not "all that better" and more than 400 times the price at 360.00. | Hmmm now I just have to figure out if ur sayin that cuz ur an admin at autogeek and they dont sell zymol....
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02-23-2007, 02:05 AM
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Originally Posted by ron231 Hmmm now I just have to figure out if ur sayin that cuz ur an admin at autogeek and they dont sell zymol....
I wonder   | Scott is right. Souveran is the best wax money can buy. If you are willing to do a side by side test Souveran VS other high end waxes - you are welcome to, but I think it's not worth spending so much just for the test. Zymol Royal might be better then Souveran, but it cost $7,000. Are you willing to spend that much on a wax? I'm not...
Keep in mind that Souveran was created for blacks and reds, where other waxes were for all colors.
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02-23-2007, 02:25 AM
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Well I just got a half container of zymol carbon from a member on autopia for $35 including shipping ($25 without) which is also supposedly for dark colors.
I was going to try souveran, but no one is selling any half containers, and i have heard good things about carbon too.
Considering my car is black, both of these are suited for my car...
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02-23-2007, 02:50 AM
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You can imagine why I thought this was the 5 or what is it up to? 10k car wash. The title of the video was World's Most Expensive Car Wash and underneath the video itself the caption read... Quote: |
This guy gets to work over every detail of the most exotic of exotics super cars, in fact he won’t touch my poor WRX even if I pay him. And how much does he charge? around $10,000 USD. Or $13,000 AUD. Watch the video now and you’ll see why, the attention to detail and the methodical steps involved are almost insane. If that wasn’t enough, you gotta see what he uses to clean the cars, such as a $16,000 AUD tub of carnauba wax.
| So I'm sure I'm not the only one scratching their head after watching that video. I certainly wasn't trying to start rumors, just gave my opinion of what I thought I was watching. Now, after your explanation, about this NOT being the multi thousand dollar car treatment, if I were him, I'd want the vid off the internet with those captions around it. People everywhere must be like "huh"?
Regarding drying a car, I've used nothing but English leather chamois for years, have used MF cloths and I've used a cordless blower, MY preferred method of them all is the blower, for obvious reasons, the chance of introducing swirls is eliminated. AND you don't have to worry about that slight water film that starts getting left behind, once the dryer of choice starts to get a little too damp. I don't care if someone uses the wings of ten thousand butterflies, the ears of African elephants or the oiled skin of a milk fed mountain goat. Common sense is not so common sense.
Regarding applying Zymol by hand...the God of detailing himself couldn't convince me that that isn't just wrong.
It's one taste I won't be acquiring. If it were with gloves that would be another story, but not raw skin which would be contributing their own oils to the wax and none so evenly either. This is the stuff urban legends are made of and for that reason, a great marketing ploy. Bologna.
What I meant about more tech was the guy was using a bucket, a wash mitt and a Makita in the video...things EVERYONE has. Nothing whatsoever out of the ordinary. I expected something like a half mile long car wash with nothing but purified water streaming out of computer controlled jets above and below the car before he would even begin to wash it by hand.
Then when it got to him, he should have a bucket of purified holy water blessed by the Dali Llama and a brand new mitt made from the arse hairs of an albino Rhesus Macaque blessed by the Pope. Then, I expected as he was washing the car to be explaining how the car will be bathed in ultra-violet light inside and out for the next 48 hours to kill off all bacteria, then bathed in a silver and gold chloride solution, followed by electron micro-analysis of the depth of the paint. Then, I expected him to explain how he has the worlds only fully automated computer driven polishing machine, which abrades the surface of the car to within +/- 1micron for THE most flawless finish ever to be beheld by human beings to date.
But then my expectations were a little high.
Here's to your health.
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02-23-2007, 04:58 AM
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Originally Posted by {FzS}BlacKMagicK You can imagine why I thought this was the 5 or what is it up to? 10k car wash. The title of the video was World's Most Expensive Car Wash and underneath the video itself the caption read...
So I'm sure I'm not the only one scratching their head after watching that video. I certainly wasn't trying to start rumors, just gave my opinion of what I thought I was watching. Now, after your explanation, about this NOT being the multi thousand dollar car treatment, if I were him, I'd want the vid off the internet with those captions around it. People everywhere must be like "huh"?
Regarding drying a car, I've used nothing but English leather chamois for years, have used MF cloths and I've used a cordless blower, MY preferred method of them all is the blower, for obvious reasons, the chance of introducing swirls is eliminated. AND you don't have to worry about that slight water film that starts getting left behind, once the dryer of choice starts to get a little too damp. I don't care if someone uses the wings of ten thousand butterflies, the ears of African elephants or the oiled skin of a milk fed mountain goat. Common sense is not so common sense.
Regarding applying Zymol by hand...the God of detailing himself couldn't convince me that that isn't just wrong.
It's one taste I won't be acquiring. If it were with gloves that would be another story, but not raw skin which would be contributing their own oils to the wax and none so evenly either. This is the stuff urban legends are made of and for that reason, a great marketing ploy. Bologna.
What I meant about more tech was the guy was using a bucket, a wash mitt and a Makita in the video...things EVERYONE has. Nothing whatsoever out of the ordinary. I expected something like a half mile long car wash with nothing but purified water streaming out of computer controlled jets above and below the car before he would even begin to wash it by hand.
Then when it got to him, he should have a bucket of purified holy water blessed by the Dali Llama and a brand new mitt made from the arse hairs of an albino Rhesus Macaque blessed by the Pope. Then, I expected as he was washing the car to be explaining how the car will be bathed in ultra-violet light inside and out for the next 48 hours to kill off all bacteria, then bathed in a silver and gold chloride solution, followed by electron micro-analysis of the depth of the paint. Then, I expected him to explain how he has the worlds only fully automated computer driven polishing machine, which abrades the surface of the car to within +/- 1micron for THE most flawless finish ever to be beheld by human beings to date.
But then my expectations were a little high.
Here's to your health. | That was just a show off. Nobody is paying $10k for a car wash/ nor a full detail. I could believe up to $1000, but everything else is just a commercial, just to keep people in fornt of their televisions while they are playing commercials.
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1999 Infiniti I30t white (daily driver)
1997 Acura 3.2 TL (sold)
2004 BMW 325 Ci jet black(wife's car).
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02-23-2007, 07:29 AM
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Originally Posted by ron231 Hmmm now I just have to figure out if ur sayin that cuz ur an admin at autogeek and they dont sell zymol....
I wonder   | I think my past reviews and true outlook on all products means that I am quite fair in assessment. (I still offer Menzerna as the best paint polish system ever). I am trying to save you a couple bucks as you wont see any difference other than a bigger credit card bill.
Carbon and creme stink ... no offense, but these are Zymols starting line. These will look alot like most paste waxes offered by several other companies. To date, only Destiny has been worth the Zymol experience (although considering price, its a no-no), and I am trying to get my hands on some Glasur as its makeup is very similar to Destiny and Souveran with white carnauba being the main ingredient.
Remember when looking at ingredients, montan wax and beeswax do absolutely NOTHING for protection or looks. They are added almost like fillers ..
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