Ultra high end wax

[supercharged]

Originally Posted by Surfer

Right now I like CG 5050 the best, I've tried Souveran and Natty's Blue on darks and lights and never could tell a difference really, I gave a slight edge to NB for wettness but Souv had an slight edge in glow it gives, this was on lemans blue and carbon black M5's, but honestly they looked basically the same. On lighter colors couldn't tell anything. But for $15 NB is incredible for what it offers.

But CG 5050 seems to have both of their qualities, the wettness, glow, and darkening those two offer but it has a nice clear look if that makes sense. Think this is an excellent wax. What I'm curious about is Perfacar comming out with their new wax as they sold a relabled CG5050 but not anymore as they have their own custom wax comming out thats supposed to be very nice.

As far as the Victoria, Swissol and other high end waxes, I pry won't bother when you have Souveran/NB/CG5050, I'm not the type to buy dozens of waxes as I already have little time for detailing our own vehicles.

Maybe I will give CG 5050 a try later down the road. I already have 15 year wax supply, and am not planning to do very many purchases of carnauba wax in a near future (Maybe some more Liquid Souveran, and CG 5050 only).

What about BlackFire?

[Surfer]

Originally Posted by supercharged

Maybe I will give CG 5050 a try later down the road. I already have 15 year wax supply, and am not planning to do very many purchases of carnauba wax in a near future (Maybe some more Liquid Souveran, and CG 5050 only).

What about BlackFire?

I really like it, I used it on one my grandparents vehicles, but have no pics. I wanted to use it on my truck but it wasn't in yet when I stripped down. My truck is white and I love NB on it as it gives a slightly darker look to the white, but after seeing pics of Liquid Souveran I want to grab some of that as well sometime and try as it looks great on white. Maybe I'll do my biz partners new black IS with CG and post pics.

Between NB/Souveran/CG 5050 I don't see a need for any other wax really, I got my bases covered .

Don't know about Blackfire, I saw some on Autopia post pics and thought it looked good. Ask Scott, I think he has some, or at least ordered some?

[killrwheels@autogeek]

I did not buy the Blackfire carnauba ... I feel that Terry really made a bad move after selling his portion of Souveran to Capt Max.

[ltoman]

Originally Posted by killrwheels@autogeek

I did not buy the Blackfire carnauba ... I feel that Terry really made a bad move after selling his portion of Souveran to Capt Max.

Maybe some of you know what that means, but i don't....

[killrwheels@autogeek]

Terry and Max co-designed and co-created Pinnacle. Over the years Max put all the extra items into the Pinnacle line to expand it always looking to take it over. Finally Terry sells his portion, and within months offers a Pinnacle Souveran look-a-like. To make matters worse Terry actually used Souveran in its original ads and also pics. Tacky !!!

[Al-53]

Originally Posted by {FzS}BlacKMagicK

Wonder if there is actually a machine which can measure gloss and reflection. I seen in a video on Meguiar's site that they have one, but it does anyone else little good, since I would think they are just a tad bias.

One could always get out some painters tape, run a line or two down your trunk, door, spoiler, trunk, and try different waxes...should be glaringly apparent then...hehehe, just couldn't resist.

At least when it comes to looks, you would know where your waxes stand, as far as lasting, that would be hard to tell, but I don't think people here care much how long it lasts anyways, you know your all out there putting another coat on every chance you get.

they actually do make a test machine to measure gloss....and I imagine it cost more than we would ever pay...but the best gloss meter is your eyes..what appeals to you is what you use...you can chase the perfect shine forever..and never find it..the shine that looks great to you is your perfect shine...

here is the info on the glossometer

Prism Instruments Canada - Your Source for Colour Measurement


what ever looks good to you stick with it...

AL

[supercharged]

Originally Posted by killrwheels@autogeek

Terry and Max co-designed and co-created Pinnacle. Over the years Max put all the extra items into the Pinnacle line to expand it always looking to take it over. Finally Terry sells his portion, and within months offers a Pinnacle Souveran look-a-like. To make matters worse Terry actually used Souveran in its original ads and also pics. Tacky !!!

He basically used original Souveran formula to create a wax of his own, huh?
Then made it even more expensive by selling 7 oz container for $80.

[dengood1]

ahhhh, now I see why Classic Motoring Accessories owned by Terry won't let AG sell their Menzerna polishes. Here is some dialogue from when I sent them an email asking why they don't let AG sell Menzerna. I didn't realize there was a previous relationship between owners:

Concerning our product lines and our distribution practices, please understand some of the products we create, manufacture, and distribute are sold via a select number of distributors. We, on occasion, add to that list as time goes on and we review current market demands. In the case of Menzerna, we are currently happy with our present distribution channel and the results we are achieving. This does not mean we will not consider other sellers in the future. We have the highest regard for Autogeek and we currently have a dialogue in process with them on this matter.

[{FzS}BlacKMagicK]

Originally Posted by Al-53

they actually do make a test machine to measure gloss....and I imagine it cost more than we would ever pay...but the best gloss meter is your eyes..what appeals to you is what you use...you can chase the perfect shine forever..and never find it..the shine that looks great to you is your perfect shine...

here is the info on the glossometer

Prism Instruments Canada - Your Source for Colour Measurement


what ever looks good to you stick with it...

AL

I want to get the gloss meter...then I will break it by using it on my car, the machine will be baffled and bedazzled and will ultimately fail not being able to compute the glossiness...Muhahahahahahaaaaa

Oh yea!!! Another shipment arrived!!!

Not to change the subject, but well I guess I am changing the subject...Has anyone tried the "shaped Q-tips" these things look like their gonna work great!!! I could have used these about a million times on all sorts of things in the past, glad AG carries them. You ever sit there trying to use a regular Q-tip soaked with some cleaning product and you have to get in a tight spot so you pull and twist into a point? Well these are already shaped to a point, and the other side is flattened. Couldn't ask for better than that. Got the Glass Master too, my windshield is really raked, very hard to get in their and clean it on the bottom where it meets the dashboard, this thing is gonna be the deal for that! Also got the Edge 4" pads. Wish me luck guys, I'm divin into this polishing thing. I can't wait!!! I've watched all the videos, read alot in this forum, I think I'm sufficiently armed, we'll see.

[killrwheels@autogeek]

Supercharged .... we dont know if he used Souveran or its recipe as a basis. We do know that he put it in advertisements, and based on the law might have done something illegal. Wonder why it got pulled so quickly ??

Dengood ..... Menzerna and CMA struck some kind of a deal. As such we are stuck getting it from "other" sellers. Dont buy CMA, PM me and I will show you another distributor. Also note, several of the products, other than polishes, are likely just private labeled CMA creations. Id tell more, but it could get me in alot of trouble. Stay away from CMA !!!!