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Old 02-13-2007, 11:57 PM   #41
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Right now I like CG 5050 the best, I've tried Souveran and Natty's Blue on darks and lights and never could tell a difference really, I gave a slight edge to NB for wettness but Souv had an slight edge in glow it gives, this was on lemans blue and carbon black M5's, but honestly they looked basically the same. On lighter colors couldn't tell anything. But for $15 NB is incredible for what it offers.

But CG 5050 seems to have both of their qualities, the wettness, glow, and darkening those two offer but it has a nice clear look if that makes sense. Think this is an excellent wax. What I'm curious about is Perfacar comming out with their new wax as they sold a relabled CG5050 but not anymore as they have their own custom wax comming out thats supposed to be very nice.

As far as the Victoria, Swissol and other high end waxes, I pry won't bother when you have Souveran/NB/CG5050, I'm not the type to buy dozens of waxes as I already have little time for detailing our own vehicles.
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Old 02-14-2007, 01:10 AM   #42
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Wonder if there is actually a machine which can measure gloss and reflection. I seen in a video on Meguiar's site that they have one, but it does anyone else little good, since I would think they are just a tad bias.

One could always get out some painters tape, run a line or two down your trunk, door, spoiler, trunk, and try different waxes...should be glaringly apparent then...hehehe, just couldn't resist.

At least when it comes to looks, you would know where your waxes stand, as far as lasting, that would be hard to tell, but I don't think people here care much how long it lasts anyways, you know your all out there putting another coat on every chance you get.
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Old 02-14-2007, 02:57 AM   #43
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Highest Priced Wax:
Souveran

Highest Quality Wax:
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Knowing that all that matters is what YOU think.........

PRICELESS!
Yep, add Signature Series II to that.
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Old 02-14-2007, 04:56 PM   #44
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I would highly suggest to anyone with the time and money to try some high end waxes to do 1/2 the car and then 1/2 with Souveran. Asked anyone who did not watch to pick the best .... you will get either "they look the same" or "this side looks a little different (Souveran side)". When you offer the price they will offer to you the better choice.

As for waxes, none to date are easier to use than the Pinnacle twins. First they heat quickly with just a foamy (no need to use hands) and second they are removed damp. If you cannot move a towel over it and remove it (think dusting a table one stroke), your using much to much. They are however beauty waxes, durability is not the main concern (thus CM and SPW) as they are show winners or glaze type products.
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Wonder if there is actually a machine which can measure gloss and reflection. I seen in a video on Meguiar's site that they have one, but it does anyone else little good, since I would think they are just a tad bias.
I don't think there are machines that can measure to our definitions. Once you start exploring the immense amount of Physics & Chemistry, just the basic definitions of depth and clarity will make your mind wonder. Just use the product that makes best the appearance in your eyes.

+1 To what Killrwheels said.
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Just use the product that makes best the appearance in your eyes.
I totally agree. People in general are always trying to impose their opinions on everyone else. I guess it's just human nature. So many things in we hear and talk about in life are just people's opinions. When it comes to things like which wax looks best there can be no right answer. Use what looks best in your opinion. If other people don't agree with you, don't worry about it because people aways disagree when it comes to matters of opinion.
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Old 02-14-2007, 07:53 PM   #47
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100 bucks a pop !!

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If I become super rich I will buy the refill wax and sell it to everyone for 100 dollars. Then get more refills.

You read my mind !!
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What do they claim about this wax that justifies the price?

It is only got from a very small forest of trees that no one knows about that grow on the dark side of the moon, the sap is released from the trees every seven years, so to pay for the flight, and the resulting limited quantity...purification, packaging and marketing...voila...$2699.00

This wax also lasts longer because of the limited gravitational pull of the moon.

And now try our new micro moonrock polish for only $5000.00 a bottle, you'll need all ten bottles in our product line to get a surface on your car smoother than the Hubble telescope's mirror. Now on sale for ONLY...$45,000.00 that's right folks, you save...five thousand big ones...so act now!!!
The secret to this polish is magnetiteiridiumoxidium, this substance is found in only one place on the dark side of the moon in a mere 700 mile square area, in a crater containing this precious substance, formed from a meteorite blast that took place 2 billion years ago, it is found nowhere else on the moon, so supplies are limited...GET YOURS NOW!!!

Coming soon, our secret alien formula sealer, that's right, on our last trip to the moon, we met with an advanced group of aliens that gave us the secret to how they keep their spaceship looking so shiny and free of oxidation, this is an exclusive folks, we are the only ones to carry this product, for a mere $100,000.00 you will have the best sealer in the Universe. It will outlast you, your car, our planet, the sun, our galaxy, time itself and will still be going strong!!!



OMG ! I have to get my order in NOW before the sale goes off !!
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And I was shocked at the price of P21S when I bought it years ago!!! That's the most I will ever spend on a wax..... even with a lottery hit. I'm not saying the higher priced ones aren't better but I doubt my old eyes could see the difference.
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Well I have three waxes right now, none of which have touched my car yet, because I am going to polish it first. When the time comes, I will apply to the rear spoiler, NXT, Meg's gold class, and souveran, just for kicks, to see if I can tell a difference, to be fair, I think they should be viewed in direct sun, indirect sun, and at night, as well as the "next day" drying can change the appearance.
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