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Old 02-13-2007, 02:15 PM   #31
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You actually spent $360 on ital? Wow, got any pics of the results?

How bout a sample for me, ive never had the pleasure of using a high end wax.


I paid $66 plus shipping.
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How did you pnly pay $66? I want in lol.
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Old 02-13-2007, 05:27 PM   #33
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How did you pnly pay $66? I want in lol.
Its the old forumla. Thenew stuff is alot more the old stuff was cheaper. I haveheard they are the same but im not sure.
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Highest Priced Wax:
Souveran

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Knowing that all that matters is what YOU think.........

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Its the old forumla. Thenew stuff is alot more the old stuff was cheaper. I haveheard they are the same but im not sure.
Their essentailly the same, with maybe a few different polymers etc. An all-in-all superior wax.
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I have tried both Zymol Itals, and the newer one is much brighter and very nice (recently changed red can to clear / wax looks almost cantalope in color). I got some that "fell" off the back of a truck, or so I was told. The original (red canister - light yellow coloring) was not even in Souveran territory. Zymol finally changed canister as some where selling the old (70.00) as the new (360.00). I would like to try Glasur due to its use of white carnauba like Destiny.

Zymol ... Titanium, Fantasy, Ital, and Destiny have all been tried. No better looking than Pinnacle (when price is considered they dont even compete) and uses montan and beeswax which does NOTHING for protection. Destiny and Souveran are nearly identical in outcome with a slightly darker edge on Souveran.

Swissol --- tried the concours wax about a year back. Nice wax, extremely expensive given its amount and ala carte pricing. Rumored to have shared formulas with Zymol at one time. Recently sued for breach of name.

Victoria Wax --- this "red" wax is nowhere near best in class. Infact, I would put it against Poorboys Natty Blue for an almost complete equal while saving you around 30.00.

Best in Wax --- would like to score a sample. Asked manufacturer but he declined. Wondering if it is a private labeling as some behind the scenes have noted.

I would highly suggest Souveran, CC 50/50, DP Max Wax, and Sig Series as great choices. Trade Secret is ok ... and still have not scored some Wet Ice by Blackfire. I know theres been more and still is. Soft99 Premium comes to mind as "not bad" and I would use of Zymols low line (carbon, creme) anyday.
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I have tried both Zymol Itals, and the newer one is much brighter and very nice (recently changed red can to clear / wax looks almost cantalope in color). I got some that "fell" off the back of a truck, or so I was told. The original (red canister - light yellow coloring) was not even in Souveran territory. Zymol finally changed canister as some where selling the old (70.00) as the new (360.00). I would like to try Glasur due to its use of white carnauba like Destiny.

Zymol ... Titanium, Fantasy, Ital, and Destiny have all been tried. No better looking than Pinnacle (when price is considered they dont even compete) and uses montan and beeswax which does NOTHING for protection. Destiny and Souveran are nearly identical in outcome with a slightly darker edge on Souveran.

Swissol --- tried the concours wax about a year back. Nice wax, extremely expensive given its amount and ala carte pricing. Rumored to have shared formulas with Zymol at one time. Recently sued for breach of name.

Victoria Wax --- this "red" wax is nowhere near best in class. Infact, I would put it against Poorboys Natty Blue for an almost complete equal while saving you around 30.00.

Best in Wax --- would like to score a sample. Asked manufacturer but he declined. Wondering if it is a private labeling as some behind the scenes have noted.

I would highly suggest Souveran, CC 50/50, DP Max Wax, and Sig Series as great choices. Trade Secret is ok ... and still have not scored some Wet Ice by Blackfire. I know theres been more and still is. Soft99 Premium comes to mind as "not bad" and I would use of Zymols low line (carbon, creme) anyday.
I am going to have to respectffully disagree with parts of this statement. the big one being on VW. I personaly feel it is a much nicer wax then sovergien. It is esier to work with, lasts longer and gives a much deeper look.
havig said that, wax is a very personal choice and everyone is diffrent. so before you make judgment try it (killer i know you have).
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I am going to have to respectffully disagree with parts of this statement. the big one being on VW. I personaly feel it is a much nicer wax then sovergien. It is esier to work with, lasts longer and gives a much deeper look.
havig said that, wax is a very personal choice and everyone is diffrent. so before you make judgment try it (killer i know you have).
Once again, it comes done to one's personal preference.

I have recieved more compliments from my customers from using NXT over anything else to date. When you do it for a living, you care what the customer thinks more than your own thoughts. Most of the time you are surprised!
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I want to try some Zymol for fun, but I hear that it is much more of a garage queen wax. It can't hold up to DD duties.

My next order from AG will include Max Wax. I also want to try the CG 5050.
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I am gong to point out here, its all in the prep. Depending on polishing, how clean the paint is and if any glazes are applied, I can make Meguiars Cleaner Wax look stunning.

To continue this argument on your opinion of a $xxx.00 wax vs a $xx.00 wax being Souveran, which honestly given the price point, a few layers of it Ill take any day. I doubt there is an easier wax to work with that is out today. If you had a wax that is much easier to work with than Souveran, itll buff itself off.

Can we please stop this my opinion is more shiny than your opinion. Enough is enough. Its not very good ethics to preach about a competitors wax on boards AG hosts and gives you discounts on their products for.

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