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    My QD and Spray Wax Technique--Many pics

    After reading what Mike Phillips said about QDing (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/...s-smudges.html) I decided to document my process.


    Alright, so I grabbed my QD of choice right now which is Meguiars Last Touch at 1:1. Why 1:1 when it's recommended at full strength for QDing? Every time I use it at full strength I experienced streaking. I experimented with sun and no sun and hot and cold but I always had streaking. Since switching to 1:1 it has worked beautifully with absolutely no streaking.

    I also took out 6 Eurow Microfiber towels. These are fantastic towels for their price and they have not marred my delicate BLACK Honda paint. I bought a 36-pack for $25 two months ago and it was well worth it. I also took out 2 Meguiars Supreme Shine microfibers for appliyng Ultimate Quik Wax after QDing.

    Then, I have my Black and Decker LED for swirl finding.






    One problem I have always had is jusging how much QD to use. I have finally figured out the how much to use on a dusty/dirty car. You want to spray enough to cover the entire section with proudct. When your car is as dirty as mine which you will see, you want to ensure there are no dry areas that your towel will wipe over. Dry dirt and towels leads to swirls.

    You want a surface that will allow the dirt/dust to slide off the paint. If you have to rub with pressure to remove the dust then you are increasing the potential to add swirls. Regular applications of a quality wax allows the surface to remain slippery and make QDing that much safer.

    Look at the picture below for an example. Notice the beading of the QD.





    This is where my technique gets interesting. Many people will say that you can only use one side of the quartered microfiber per swipe. However, only one edge of the microfiber is actually acruing dust on the wipe. So, how can I use this idea to use less towels and still QD safely.

    First, here is how I hold the microfiber on wiping.





    By holding it this way I focus all of the dirt on the folded edge. Now, if you hold it flat I find it harder to gently wipe the paint. This technique allows me to wipe the paint with as little pressure as possible thereby reducing the potential to inflict swirls.

    When QDing, I always swipe in the direction of the panel. In other words, I swipe in the longest direction of the panel. If the panel is longest left to right, I will swipe left to right. If it is longest up and down then I will swipe up and down.

    Now, here is what the edge of the microfiber looks after a single swipe.




    Now, the dirt line is not perfect but there is clearly one folded edge that I wiped against the paint. So, on my next wipe I set this dirt edge so that it is right above the folded edge that will perform the next swipe.

    That looks something like this.







    After doing several swipes like this, we have a good 50/50 showing just how dirty the car was.






    Some people would have chosen to wash the car if it was this dirty but I wanted to prove that this technique can work. Plus, it was 42 degrees out............


    Here is another shot of how much QD I use. This is on the decklid. Notice the water spots around the flashing indicating not only dust but a dirty film on the car.







    If that wasn't enough to prove it then the back and front of this microfiber should be enough proof. I went through 4 microfibers and all of them looked like this when all sides were used up. That is 32 sides worth of quartered microfiber.










    Look at the dirt lines and how they are successive and in perpendicular in some cases. I use up as much of the microfiber as possible because I feel that it's the most efficient. Why use 12 when I can use 4 with great success?









    The next step was to apply Ultimate Quik Wax to the car. I applied a coat of NXT 2.0 about 2 weeks ago and have since applied two coats of Ultimate Quik Wax. This constitutes the third coat.

    I used a Meguiars Supreme Shine microfiber to apply.





    It is best to spray two spritzes of the product onto one side of the towel. If you simply spray UQW on the car and start wiping it around then the towel will absorb the product while you are trying t spread it making the job more difficult. Priming one side of the towel like this aids in spreading the product because the towel won't want to absorbas much product.







    2 sprays onto the hood is all I need to cover the area. With UQW, you should apply it thin enough that you don't have to buff off any residue. It dries almost instantaneously and streak free. I always turn the towel over to a dry side to lightly buff the area to ensure it's streak free though.

    Here is 2 sprays on my hood.






    Remember, the car is clean when you apply UQW or any spray wax so there should be no need to refold the towel and use a new side. As you keep spraying and wiping, more UQW will accumulate on the towel and you can use less and less as you go along the car. Two sprays per panel like a door is the most you should need. As you work your way around, 1 spray may only be needed. Evenutally, you will be applying very little product to the surface because the towel will be moist with UQW.

    In fact, if the towel is moist with UQW, try wiping it across the panel. You should see streaks that disappear almost instantly as you wipe across the panel. This is the UQW drying on the surface. That is all you need to use this product effectively. Less is more with this product IMHO.

    I have used this bottle three times now as I bought it new a few weeks ago. It comes with 15.2 oz of product.

    Here is how much product I used for three times around my Civic including windows.



    The lower black mark is 12 oz and the higher is the 13 oz. I poured out the UQW bottle into this measuring apparatus and found about 12.5 oz of UQW still in the bottle. This comes out to 0.9 oz per use for the entire car.


    Now, let's see some afters!




















    Yes, I know. My license plate is there but I don't anticipate anyone from Autogeek wanting to find where I live. If they do, it's already in my profile.



    Anyway, there is my write-up for how I QD my car. Please leave me feedback on how this was so I can make the corrections in the future.



    THANKS FOR VIEWING!

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    Re: My QD and Spray Wax Technique--Many pics

    Shawn,

    I think you did a tremendous job of showing how a little thinking and ingenuity can make a product work and work well! Technique is always part of the solution and it easy to see why yours products some outstanding results!

    I like the way your photos show the progressive improvement in cleaning and ultimately a gorgeous reflective shine....

    Nice review!

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    Re: My QD and Spray Wax Technique--Many pics

    Quote Originally Posted by BobbyG View Post
    Shawn,

    I think you did a tremendous job of showing how a little thinking and ingenuity can make a product work and work well! Technique is always part of the solution and it easy to see why yours products some outstanding results!

    I like the way your photos show the progressive improvement in cleaning and ultimately a gorgeous reflective shine....

    Nice review!
    Bobby said it better than I could. Very well done! I would recommend you try one of the new waterless washes when you run out of QD. The Ultima is crazy cheap when you buy the concentrate. Around $3.50 per gallon and IMO its better than any QD Ive ever tried and that;s a lot. Just my $.02 FWIW.
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    Re: My QD and Spray Wax Technique--Many pics

    I'm not a fan of using a qd to clean a car that's this dirty.

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    There is no way I would use a watered down QD on a car that dirty. They should only be used on a slightly dusty surface.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Tiger View Post
    Bobby said it better than I could. Very well done! I would recommend you try one of the new waterless washes when you run out of QD. The Ultima is crazy cheap when you buy the concentrate. Around $3.50 per gallon and IMO its better than any QD Ive ever tried and that;s a lot. Just my $.02 FWIW.
    I'll have to agree with this as well.

    Some of the new waterless washes do work surprisingly well! I bought some of the DP Rinseless Wash & Gloss and as much as I'm not fond of this type of product I have to say it worked very well.

    Ultima is another product that works incredibly well, in fact the Ultima line offers some of the finest product available and there all here at Autogeek.

    These products are designed to be used when normal washing with water isn't possible. Typically you'll see these are very popular in areas where cold and snow is the norm for several months out of the year.

    As you clearly demonstrated quick detailers will work but there are products available to us that work better..

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    Re: My QD and Spray Wax Technique--Many pics

    Quote Originally Posted by BobbyG View Post
    Shawn,

    I think you did a tremendous job of showing how a little thinking and ingenuity can make a product work and work well! Technique is always part of the solution and it easy to see why yours products some outstanding results!

    I like the way your photos show the progressive improvement in cleaning and ultimately a gorgeous reflective shine....

    Nice review!
    Thanks Bobby. I've been testing this technique for a while now and it works very well. I've done this about 10 times to this car when it has been this dirty and it still shines!

    I actually wasn't even planning that progression. It just kind of happened as I took pictures of the process.

    Quote Originally Posted by Old Tiger View Post
    Bobby said it better than I could. Very well done! I would recommend you try one of the new waterless washes when you run out of QD. The Ultima is crazy cheap when you buy the concentrate. Around $3.50 per gallon and IMO its better than any QD Ive ever tried and that;s a lot. Just my $.02 FWIW.
    Thanks. I am definitely going to look into Ultima. It looks really good. At $3.50 a gallon, it would a very economical quick detailer and clay lubricant. Thanks for the suggestion!

    Quote Originally Posted by Rob T View Post
    I'm not a fan of using a qd to clean a car that's this dirty.
    I'm not saying that you should use it when the car is this dirty. I would have preferred a two-bucket wash with my lambswool wash mitt but at 42 degrees I didn't want to do this. I just wanted to show what can be done with a certain technique.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dubbin1 View Post
    There is no way I would use a watered down QD on a car that dirty. They should only be used on a slightly dusty surface.

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    I just wanted to show what could be done when weather forces your hand.

    Quote Originally Posted by BobbyG View Post
    I'll have to agree with this as well.

    Some of the new waterless washes do work surprisingly well! I bought some of the DP Rinseless Wash & Gloss and as much as I'm not fond of this type of product I have to say it worked very well.

    Ultima is another product that works incredibly well, in fact the Ultima line offers some of the finest product available and there all here at Autogeek.

    These products are designed to be used when normal washing with water isn't possible. Typically you'll see these are very popular in areas where cold and snow is the norm for several months out of the year.

    As you clearly demonstrated quick detailers will work but there are products available to us that work better..
    I am definitely getting some Ultima soon. It looks too good to pass up. Better products at less cost. What could be better?

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    Re: My QD and Spray Wax Technique--Many pics

    Great write up. However I agree with Rob T that the car is way to dirty to use a QD. I would have switched to Opti Clean or Ultima to take care of that dirt.

    Thanks for putting that together...
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    I really liked your write up. Thanks for taking the time to post it. Everyone has opinions and it's fun to see others experiment and show what results can come from different techniques. As Mike P. says, find something that works and use it often (or something like that, haha)

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    Quote Originally Posted by BobbyG View Post
    Ultima is another product that works incredibly well, in fact the Ultima line offers some of the finest product available and there all here at Autogeek.
    Sadly they are not all here at AG.

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