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    Trouble with MB S420 paint

    I am working on a 2001 Mercedes S420 black oem paint.
    The paint suffers from heavy rids, marring, and some random deep scratches.

    I am having a hard time removing the massive rids on this car. Perhaps the paint is very hard?

    What I am using:

    Flex 3401
    LC CCS yellow cutting pad
    LC CCS green heavy polishing pad
    LC CCS white polishing pad
    Surbuff pad
    Meguiars M105, M205, Ultimate Compound, SwirlX

    Techniques used and result:

    Polish at speed 6 with yellow pad M105 4 pass - removed 70% of defect
    Polish at speed 5 with yellow pad SwirlX 2 pass - removed NO defect
    Polish at speed 5 with Surbuff pad M105 3 pass - added micro marring
    Polish at speed 5 with white pad Swirl X 3 pass - removed NO defect

    Used KBM method and used slow moving pass with polisher

    Do I need to move up to rotary?
    In the sun the paint looks good for most people
    If I shine a Brinkmann light to it I see massive RIDS ans swirls

    I gave up after 1 hour on a test panel

    Any ideas?
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    Re: Trouble with MB S420 paint

    Is the paint cerami-clear? You can check by opening the driver side door and if it is there should be a C beside the VIN. Cerami-clear is hard to polish.

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    Re: Trouble with MB S420 paint

    Quote Originally Posted by Munich77 View Post
    Is the paint cerami-clear? You can check by opening the driver side door and if it is there should be a C beside the VIN. Cerami-clear is hard to polish.

    It is conventional clear. No C besides VIN. Producted Sep 2001.

    I say the paint is hard due to these reasons:
    The trunk lid is repainted a few years back and is very easy to correct with M105. It finishes almost LSP ready.

    When I polish the factory paint panel it does not budge much.
    M105 with yellow cutting pad removed bulk of the defect (heavy RIDS, swirls, cobwebbing)

    What remains are massive finer RIDS. I tried changing pad and polish combo to see what works and nothing seems to reduce the OVERALL remaining defect.
    Surbuff just added micromarring. I followed up with lighter polish with foam pad and the micromarring from the Surbuff is gone but the RIDS still remain.

    This is the most annoying paint. I do not have access to a rotary nor do I wish to experiment on this car with my lack of experience.
    There is no place like 172.0.0.1

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