SwirlX. Abrasive or not? 2 different descriptions

[trencher7]

I'm confused about SwirlX after reading 2 different descriptions.

Mike showed how abrasive it was compared to other Meg products here.

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Claiming it's more abrasive than Meg's 83 and 205.

Here is the AG description for SwirlX-

"Meguiars Swirl X Swirl Remover is a non-abrasive paint cleaner and polish ..."

So which is it? Abrasive or just a filler?

[mcpp66]

It's not a filler as I believe it does remove paint. I think that's their wording to indicated that it doesn't instill any of it's own scratches. But for it to remove the scratch it has to remove paint so there must be a certain level of abrasiveness. The wording is a little too "cute" for my liking, but it is what it is man.

[akimel]

Mike Pennington of Meguiar's explains: "We use the term non-abrasive to mean it will not scour or harm the finish like a traditional 'compound.'"

[C30-Mike]

If I undersatand correctly, SwirlX is more of a chemical abrasive than physical abrasive. It is not a filler.
This reminds me of Meguiars Medalian Paint Cleaner back in the 90's.

[mcpp66]

If I undersatand correctly, SwirlX is more of a chemical abrasive than physical abrasive. It is not a filler.
This reminds me of Meguiars Medalian Paint Cleaner back in the 90's.

I could be wrong, but I don't think it's a chemical abrasive.

[akimel]

SwirlX is one of Meguiar's SMAT (Super Micro Abrasive Technology) products, along with M205, ScratchX 2.0, Ultimate Compound, M86, M105, and D151. Each uses uniform non-diminishing abrasive particles.

[WRAPT C5Z06]

SwirlX is one of Meguiar's SMAT (Super Micro Abrasive Technology) products, along with M205, ScratchX 2.0, Ultimate Compound, M86, M105, and D151. Each uses uniform non-diminishing abrasive particles.

I think SMAT is great technology. It really takes the "guesswork" out of polishing.

[trencher7]

Thanks for the replies. Makes sense now. I think the "non abrasive" definition isn't accurate.

The reason I ask is the only abrasives I have right now are Ultimate Compound and Speed Glaze. I was wondering if I am missing a step and should either get finishing polish or if I can finish with the Speed Glaze and should instead get a step in between like SwirlX.

[Mike Phillips]

Thanks for the replies. Makes sense now. I think the "non abrasive" definition isn't accurate.

It is confusing but so are MANY of the words used in this industry by all the manufactures.

Speaking as someone that one of my titles at Meguiar's was "Corporate Writer", (2002 to 2003), writing is done and words are chosen for the masses that are not detailing savvy or discussion forum savvy. The masses NEVER get as deep as online enthusiasts do. So you try to covey thoughts that tell the potential customer safe, fast and easy for a deep, wet shine.

The reason I ask is the only abrasives I have right now are Ultimate Compound and Speed Glaze. I was wondering if I am missing a step and should either get finishing polish or if I can finish with the Speed Glaze and should instead get a step in between like SwirlX.

You should be able to finish out with SwirlX.

Have you tried?

[sparkism13]

I was confused at first too because there is no standard jargon as far as MFGs are concerned. They throw around terms like polish, glaze, non-abrasive, paint cleansing, etc. It's all quite confusing. It gets more confusing when you start mixing products from different manufacturers. I think Mothers probably had the most consumer friendly approach in their easy to decipher 1-2-3 system. Cleaner to remove moderate swirls, Polish/Glaze as a fine polish, and then Carnuba Wax as a last step protectant.

These forum boards are a tremendous resource in figuring this stuff out as well.