Detail Clay

[Excessive Detail]

Does anyone here by their detail clay in bulk from anywhere, if so were and what brands.

Also, I was thinking about using Clay Magic, since I can buy it locally for about 10 a bar, as a temporary fix until I figure out my clay delima. Would this be a good idea? What your take?

Thanks

[Deep Gloss Auto Salon]

Originally Posted by Excessive Detail

Does anyone here by their detail clay in bulk from anywhere, if so were and what brands.

Also, I was thinking about using Clay Magic, since I can buy it locally for about 10 a bar, as a temporary fix until I figure out my clay delima. Would this be a good idea? What your take?

Thanks

Clay magic is great OTC clay..

[Wolf-Strong]

Originally Posted by MotorCity Honda

Clay magic is great clay..

Fixed

I personally use Meguiar's Professional Mild clay, though if I could buy Clay Magic for $100/100grams locally, I would just do that. Unfortunately, I have not found a retailer that sells it, so I am plenty happy with my Meguiar's clay.

[TOGWT]

Originally Posted by Wolf-Strong

Fixed

I personally use Meguiar's Professional Mild clay, though if I could buy Clay Magic for $100/100grams locally, I would just do that. Unfortunately, I have not found a retailer that sells it, so I am plenty happy with my Meguiar's clay.

You are buying 'Clay Magic' indirectly whichever clay you choose...

There are only a couple manufactures of clay and patents protect the technology, with some subtle difference in consistency and firmness, a recent court hearing found components of the “elastic clay” to be a patent infringement and the judge ordered sale of the product to be halted. (In the United States, Auto Wax Company Inc. (now owned by Illinois Tool Works Inc.) owns the US patent rights (No. 5,727,993) and reads thus- "Conventional compounds comprising an elastomeric resin mixed with abrasives used to remove protrusions, projections, and/or strongly adhered foreign matter from vehicle surfaces"

Auto Wax owns six patents relating to clay products and provides private label clay too many of the detail industry’s leading companies - http://www.automagic.biz/specialt.htm As a result, all of the Polybutene (Polyisobutylene) or plastic clay being manufactured now comes from the same factory in Japan, which as the only patent holder has a monopoly on the market. Meguiar's, Mothers, Sonus, Zaino, et al get their clay either from Japan (Source Chem. Inc. one of Japan's biggest clay manufacturers) or from a US licensed manufacturer.

See- Clay - http://www.detailuniversity.com/forums/school-exterior-detailing/1320-detailers-automotive-clay-article-jon-miller.html

[supercharged]

I like Pinnacle Ultra poly clay for delicate finishes (like my own car), and Clay Magic for rougher finishes. It's available OTC at Autozone, just $10.99 you get a clay bar and clay lube.

[Excessive Detail]

Damn, thats pretty good, thanks for the reply, so basically most clay bars are all made of the exact same material, but labled differently. Good to know. I guess that means you can't really go wrong no matter whic brand yu go with. Didn't clay magic start the whole thing?

Originally Posted by TOGWT

You are buying 'Clay Magic' indirectly whichever clay you choose...

There are only a couple manufactures of clay and patents protect the technology, with some subtle difference in consistency and firmness, a recent court hearing found components of the “elastic clay” to be a patent infringement and the judge ordered sale of the product to be halted. (In the United States, Auto Wax Company Inc. (now owned by Illinois Tool Works Inc.) owns the US patent rights (No. 5,727,993) and reads thus- "Conventional compounds comprising an elastomeric resin mixed with abrasives used to remove protrusions, projections, and/or strongly adhered foreign matter from vehicle surfaces"

Auto Wax owns six patents relating to clay products and provides private label clay too many of the detail industry’s leading companies - http://www.automagic.biz/specialt.htm As a result, all of the Polybutene (Polyisobutylene) or plastic clay being manufactured now comes from the same factory in Japan, which as the only patent holder has a monopoly on the market. Meguiar's, Mothers, Sonus, Zaino, et al get their clay either from Japan (Source Chem. Inc. one of Japan's biggest clay manufacturers) or from a US licensed manufacturer.

See- Clay - http://www.detailuniversity.com/forums/school-exterior-detailing/1320-detailers-automotive-clay-article-jon-miller.html

[budman3]

All US clay is supposed to come from Auto Magic, but there can be varations of formulas ... so not all clay is the same- it just comes from the same place.

[Wolf-Strong]

Originally Posted by budman3

All US clay is supposed to come from Auto Magic, but there can be varations of formulas ... so not all clay is the same- it just comes from the same place.

Well said.

[Excessive Detail]

Is DP Universal Clay basically the same as the older Pinnacle Clay, and has any one ever used chemical guys clay?

[supercharged]

Originally Posted by Excessive Detail

Is DP Universal Clay basically the same as the older Pinnacle Clay, and has any one ever used chemical guys clay?

No, but from what I can see it offers three different grades of clay, aggressive, fine, and ultra fine.