Poor results with ONR on front bumper with bugs

**trusaleen1** · 03-27-2015, 12:34 PM

So I have tried Optimum No Rinse a few times and I'm not getting great results when it comes to bugs on the front bumper and anything other than a light dust on the car. I live in an area where I'm always having to clean bugs off my front windshield and front bumper. I've tried using some in a spray bottle and pretreat the area with ONR but it still doesnt really help get them off. Any tips?

**ronkh57** · 03-27-2015, 12:36 PM

try a bug cleaner like PB Bug Squash before the wash.

ONR is a rinseless wash, not bug remover

**lpklemmer** · 03-27-2015, 12:47 PM

A bug/tar remover or clean them off sooner.

I typically will go over my front bumper in the spring/summer months every day when I get home from work to remove the bugs before everything gets hardened and crusty. Only takes 5-10 minutes and they always wipe right off.

**trusaleen1** · 03-27-2015, 12:48 PM

Great i'll give that a try, I've read wet dryer sheets, such as bounce can help, but I don't see how those would be safe on the paint.

**rms64** · 03-27-2015, 12:52 PM

Originally Posted by trusaleen1

Great i'll give that a try, I've read wet dryer sheets, such as bounce can help, but I don't see how those would be safe on the paint.

You're correct about the dryer sheets. Don't do that.

**builthatch** · 03-27-2015, 12:53 PM

all bugs aren't the same. what they eat, how long they are on there, what the temps are of the environment, is the sun baking them, what kind of paint protection you have, etc. all make a huge difference.

i have coated vehicles and live in an area that has a lot of beaches but also marshes and woods. a lot of our roads and highways go through these areas so thus, i collect a lot of bugs. i do not need anything more than Opti-Clean to remove these. i spray it on, let it sit for several seconds and wipe with a primed microfiber. gone.

i know i could do the same with ONR but the coating is probably the best tool since it releases stuff so well.

**trusaleen1** · 03-27-2015, 01:03 PM

Originally Posted by builthatch

all bugs aren't the same. what they eat, how long they are on there, what the temps are of the environment, is the sun baking them, what kind of paint protection you have, etc. all make a huge difference.

i have coated vehicles and live in an area that has a lot of beaches but also marshes and woods. a lot of our roads and highways go through these areas so thus, i collect a lot of bugs. i do not need anything more than Opti-Clean to remove these. i spray it on, let it sit for several seconds and wipe with a primed microfiber. gone.

i know i could do the same with ONR but the coating is probably the best tool since it releases stuff so well.

What do you mean by coated? Like a Sealant?

**CarolinasFinestDetailing** · 03-27-2015, 01:36 PM

Originally Posted by trusaleen1

What do you mean by coated? Like a Sealant?

Call it a sealant on steroids.

Pre-soaking bugs with ONR works great if your car is coated or freshly waxed/sealed OP. Other than that, need something a bit stronger. As builthatch brought up, there are many variables.

**FocusSTguy** · 03-27-2015, 02:14 PM

I'm a fan of the bug sponge. I haven't tried it yet with a rinseless wash but don't see why it wouldn't work.

**Bunky** · 03-28-2015, 05:25 AM

Originally Posted by ronkh57

try a bug cleaner like PB Bug Squash before the wash.

Agree. Bug Squash at 1:3 dilution is considered LSP safe.

I would do this step last since I would use the ONR solution as the rinse agent if you put your wash media back into the bucket to prevent contamination.

It is a good pre-clean step with a traditional soap to get bugs off bump or crud off the lower rockers, etc. I am surprised other product makers do not market a product for a similar purpose.