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    Melted CCS Pads? Thoughts?

    Hello fellow AG'ers. This weekend I finally got around to doing a full detail on my 2011 Dodge Charger R/T. Over the last 12 months it's gotten more than a few swirls. Here's why.

    1.. It's black. Dear Lord I'll never buy another black car. Moving on.....
    2. It sits outside 24x7. I have a nice driveway to work in. But no garage.
    3. I commute in the DC Metro area, so I'm frequently driving through construction zones filled with dust and rocks, etc.
    4. As a n00b in the detailing world last year I was over-committed to keep the car clean on a daily basis. I went overboard with trying to keep it clean with QD and microfiber wipe downs. I'm sure I put some of the swirls in there myself.
    5. Did I mention it's black.

    Anyway, on to the pads.

    After a 2 bucket wash, clay, and tape, I began the detail from the top down.

    I used a product I've never tried before Megs D151. It's advertised as an AIO with an ability to get out swirls and polish down nicely and protect all at the same time.

    I used a CCS Orange pad and D151 on the roof and the trunk. Then I switched off to a new (as in brand new, never used) CCS orange pad and did the drivers side of the car.

    I used a speed of 6 on my Griots Garage DA polisher during this whole process.

    When I pulled off the second pad the center of the pad had melted away and bits of the melted Velcro were on the backing plate! See pics for the melted pads.

    I thought maybe I just kept the pad on too long and tried a second new pad. After one panel - same thing. Melted pad. All in all I melted the center of three CCS orange pads.

    Why did this happen? Was a speed of 6 just too much for the pads? The GG DA is a year old, but it's only been used over the course of three weekends since I bought it. Could a combo of the orange pads, D151, and GG DA at speed 6 cause some sort of heat build up?

    Anyway, your thoughts are appreciated.

    And to finish up the story D151 and the orange pads only got out about 75-80% of the swirls. Good for a daily driver, but I see a few swirls remaining on the hood and trunk I'll go back and hit with a dedicated swirl remover such as Wolfgangs TSW or Megs 105/205.

    And despite the claim of protection from D151 by itself, I couldn't help breaking out old reliable - Collinite 845 for the final topping. Sorry, no pics of the car, but check out the pads!
    Our Lady Of Blessed Acceleration - Don't Fail Me Now.

    Alex, from Northern Virginia.

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    Re: Melted CCS Pads? Thoughts?

    Probably too fast. The GG is 2500-6800 orbits per minute. Recommended speed for D151 is 4-5, both according to Autogeek product pages.

    You might also have been pressing too hard which made heat build-up worse. My assistant did that and de-laminated a brand new orange CCS last week.
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    Re: Melted CCS Pads? Thoughts?

    I delaminated a pad using the porter cable so you are not alone. I found that the backing plate gets hot and melts the adhesive that holds the pad to the Velcro backing. The polisher got too hot.

    Part of that was due to the speed you were using but even at the proper speed, the polisher will still get warm if you are doing continuous work with it. Give it a chance to cool down between panels.

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