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08-30-2009, 04:37 PM
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| Griots Random vs 7424xp
Well, after many weekends of having really sore shoulders and arms from hand polishing I believe have finally been broken.
Reading Mike's recent post on hand vs Random time frames, I am ready to purchase a machine to help out.
So here's the question, the Griots vs PC argument breaks down to raw stats as in amps (7 to 4.5) and wattage (850 to 500). Anyone have any real world experience with the two to substantiate the large difference on paper?
The movable handle on the Griots looks much more user friendly as well.
Have always heard great things about the PC, but those numbers are hard to ignore.
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08-30-2009, 06:21 PM
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| Re: Griots Random vs 7424xp Quote:
Originally Posted by mchess1 Well, after many weekends of having really sore shoulders and arms from hand polishing I believe have finally been broken.
Reading Mike's recent post on hand vs Random time frames, I am ready to purchase a machine to help out.
So here's the question, the Griots vs PC argument breaks down to raw stats as in amps (7 to 4.5) and wattage (850 to 500). Anyone have any real world experience with the two to substantiate the large difference on paper?
The movable handle on the Griots looks much more user friendly as well.
Have always heard great things about the PC, but those numbers are hard to ignore.  | I have the new Griot's, (keep in mind I'm a total noob) but so far I have been impressed. One thing that was a drawback to the old version was it would not accept other size backing plates from other manufactures, that has been fixed I know I bought a 3.5" LC backing plate for a PC and tried it, it fit perfect.
The power seems to be great, it spins 6.5" pads with out any trouble or bogging down. Even after the pad gets loaded with product it still handles it great. RPMS are extremely adjustable in 1/2 number increments ie: 2, 2.5, 3, 3.5 and on from 1 to 6.
I like the loop handle but it can get in the way in tight areas. This handle does not adjust with a snap but you need to loosen Allen screws to adjust it's position. I use the loop handle to hang it by when I'm working on a ladder so that's a plus.
Weight and balance seems good to me. one thing I do not like is the power switch is on the side, it can be difficult to find some times and is easy to bump and turn off at times. The PC's is on top, a better place IMO.
All I have this to compare to is the old PC and that use is very limited. I have never ran an XP.
All in all I think the NEW Griot's is under rated and is still living with the reputation of the old model that was, (from what I have read) under powered and was not compatible with aftermarket backing plates. I would not hesitate to purchase another Griot's, I think the drawbacks to the old model have been addressed. It would be great to see a side by side, my money would be on the Griot's to come out on top.
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08-30-2009, 07:08 PM
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| Re: Griots Random vs 7424xp
If you are going to be doing this professionally and not just on your own cars, I think the FLEX 3401 is a better option for you.
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08-30-2009, 09:10 PM
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| Re: Griots Random vs 7424xp
this is the same decision i am trying to make. griots vs pc xp.
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08-31-2009, 12:11 AM
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| Re: Griots Random vs 7424xp Quote:
Originally Posted by BlackSunshine01 this is the same decision i am trying to make. griots vs pc xp. | get the PC7424XP, you can't go wrong with anything made by porter cable and they've been tried & true for many many years...
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08-31-2009, 12:35 AM
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| Re: Griots Random vs 7424xp
I'd go for the Griots for three reasons. More amperage=more power/torque, backing plate and Lifetime warranty. None of which is offered by the PCXP.
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08-31-2009, 12:40 AM
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| Re: Griots Random vs 7424xp Quote:
Originally Posted by BigAl3 get the PC7424XP, you can't go wrong with anything made by porter cable and they've been tried & true for many many years... | very true Quote:
Originally Posted by Lasthope05 I'd go for the Griots for three reasons. More amperage=more power/torque, backing plate and Lifetime warranty. None of which is offered by the PCXP. | this is a big reason for my delima
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08-31-2009, 01:49 AM
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| Re: Griots Random vs 7424xp Quote:
Originally Posted by Lasthope05 I'd go for the Griots for three reasons. More amperage=more power/torque, backing plate and Lifetime warranty. None of which is offered by the PCXP. | while on paper it has more "amperage/power", i would not buy one (nothing against Griot's, just would rather be safe than sorry) until someone does a thorough/side by side comparison with the PC7424XP. years ago, joe from superiorshine did a side by side test with the older Griots D/A (was suppose to have more power than the 7424 at the time) vs. PC7424, and he ended up returning the Griots. "if" Griots has outdone themselves and indeed upgraded the new D/A to be better than the 7424XP, my hat is off to them... I think I like it !! - Car Care Forums: Meguiar's Online
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08-31-2009, 03:55 AM
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| Re: Griots Random vs 7424xp
I too, look forward to a side-by-side test of these 2 Machines.
While the PC 7424-XP might be the industry standard, this doesn't mean that it's the best in it's class.
The Flex always comes up as being the best, yadda, yadda, blah, blah, blah... but it's more than double the price, too.
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08-31-2009, 04:07 AM
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| Re: Griots Random vs 7424xp
You can have the PC 7424-XP and a Makita 9223C for the price of the
Flex. Just a little food for thought.
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