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09-03-2009, 10:52 PM
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#41 | | Senior Member
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| Re: Griots Random vs 7424xp Quote:
Originally Posted by ZoranC XP leaves me uninterested. | Let us know how your Griots holds up...
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09-03-2009, 11:23 PM
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#42 | | Senior Member
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| Re: Griots Random vs 7424xp Quote:
Originally Posted by BigAl3 Let us know how your Griots holds up...  | I will. In the meantime check of build and design left me with no reason to believe that it should not, plus Griot's lifetime satisfaction guarantee makes me feel comfortable that I should be fine even if I am wrong.
Actually, I feel lifetime guarantees are even more important to casual users like me than to heavy users. One year warranty is often worthless to casual users as they don't use tool enough for issues to be likely to show up in first year, they usually show up much later down the road due to light use and by that time it is too late, warranty is long expired. So lifetime warranty is a no brainer to me.
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09-03-2009, 11:29 PM
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#43 | | Senior Member
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| Re: Griots Random vs 7424xp Quote:
Originally Posted by mchess1 It does seem that no one has direct experience with both new machines, which Is unfortunate. Unfortunate because I won't take a chance on the griots. For a purchase of that amount for me, I will have to pick the one with the "reputation".
. | So how much of a track record does the XP have? Is it not a new machine as well? So all you are buying is the Porter Cable name.. Take the name badge off and then pick one.
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09-04-2009, 12:32 AM
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#44 | | Senior Member
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| Re: Griots Random vs 7424xp
7424........ 2500-6000 rpm's... 4.0 amps... 5-3/4 lbs
7424-XP... 2500-6800 rpm's... 4.5 amps... 5-3/4 lbs
Griot........ 2500-6800 rpm's... 7.0 amps... 6.1 lbs
I like the fact that the Griot has 2 things going for it.
More Amperage... means more Power.
Soft-start... so you don't get that "modified Grinder to a Buffer kick" like the PC.
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09-04-2009, 07:42 AM
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#45 | | Member
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| Re: Griots Random vs 7424xp Quote:
Originally Posted by ZoranC Actually, I feel lifetime guarantees are even more important to casual users like me than to heavy users. One year warranty is often worthless to casual users as they don't use tool enough for issues to be likely to show up in first year, they usually show up much later down the road due to light use and by that time it is too late, warranty is long expired. So lifetime warranty is a no brainer to me. | EXACTLY! That is what happened to me with the UDM! All the hype about the extra power was irresistable. It blew up after very few uses, but was out of warranty. The actual use I got from it was not worth the price at all.I've been waiting for reviews on Griots before buying it or pulling the trigger on a Flex... either one will be with The Edge system.
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09-04-2009, 09:05 AM
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#46 | | Senior Member
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| Re: Griots Random vs 7424xp Quote:
Originally Posted by Buckskincolt So how much of a track record does the XP have? Is it not a new machine as well? So all you are buying is the Porter Cable name.. Take the name badge off and then pick one. | Yeah but it's the brand's history of reliability that's represented and that gives you insight into the likely quality, durability and performance level of the company's product.
You're not telling me that you would just as soon take a blind chance on a Daewoo purchase over a Honda or Toyota are you?
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09-04-2009, 09:26 AM
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| Re: Griots Random vs 7424xp Quote:
Originally Posted by Buckskincolt So how much of a track record does the XP have? Is it not a new machine as well? So all you are buying is the Porter Cable name.. Take the name badge off and then pick one. | Exactly my rationale for starting this thread. Without the access, money or skill to test the two, what do you base it on? Paper stats can be deceiving, but they did catch my eye. With nothing to go on, is the update to a very well respected machine better then an update to one that was not as well reviewed? So yes, you are almost forced to take a chance on the pc name vs griots.
A good way to make a purchase? Not typical for me but I am ready to buy and can't afford the flex
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09-04-2009, 10:00 AM
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#48 | | Senior Member
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| Re: Griots Random vs 7424xp Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterShark Yeah but it's the brand's history of reliability that's represented and that gives you insight into the likely quality, durability and performance level of the company's product.
You're not telling me that you would just as soon take a blind chance on a Daewoo purchase over a Honda or Toyota are you? | Yeah but what about all those pioneering people who bought Honda and Toyota when the big names were Ford and GM? How wold you ever know Toyota and Honda were a good product?
Buy the PC name (Ford, GM), I'm sure it's a good product but IMHO The Griot's is better (Honda, Toyota of old). Remeber when people used to laugh at people who bought Honda, Toyota......
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09-04-2009, 10:54 AM
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#49 | | Senior Member
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| Re: Griots Random vs 7424xp Quote:
Originally Posted by Buckskincolt Yeah but what about all those pioneering people who bought Honda and Toyota when the big names were Ford and GM? How wold you ever know Toyota and Honda were a good product?
Buy the PC name (Ford, GM), I'm sure it's a good product but IMHO The Griot's is better (Honda, Toyota of old). Remeber when people used to laugh at people who bought Honda, Toyota......  | Sorry, no pioneering spirit here when it comes to the limited funds I have to spread around on recreational purchases like this; I'll hedge my bets and go with what I know to be tried and true.
That said though; that's only me. It's absolutely crucial to the free market system that the competition also has a shot, so cheers to those that do decide on the Griots machine. I'm betting either purchase is likely a safe investment and both Griots and PC folks will be happy in the end.
I can't imagine AG selling something that would be clearly subpar and likely to yield unhappy customers.
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09-04-2009, 11:34 AM
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#50 | | Senior Member
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| Re: Griots Random vs 7424xp
Good Comment, James...
The PC will probably outsell the Griot just on name alone... but I'm satisfied that the support I'll get from AUTOGEEK is enough to carry me through many Years of service from this Buffer.
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